W.T.actual.F: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magi ... -new-basic

There's a third leak, too, of a land that taps for ◇: http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magi ... comment=32

No one's identified the artwork as being from anywhere else, so that gives these some believability, although they are very bizarre.

The first popular theory was that ◇ can only be paid for with colorless mana, but the fact that a land produces it (instead of producing ) means it must be it's own thing.

Seriously, yeah, WTF I WANT these to be fake, or something relatively explicable (like the "must be paid with colorless" theory) but... yeah.

I would say this could ruin magic, but looking carefully Wastes does not have a type (meaning it doesn't bring about the development hell of Barry's Land). I doubt Grey Diamond will be a legit 6th color, though. Probably more similar to what I wanted snow mana to be.

EDIT: Where I was going with that is that I would say that this has magic-ruining potential, but then I think DFCs had more threat and they turned out beyond fine.

I'm guessing it is similar to snow.

I don't think those are opposed at all. I think this is simply finally making a concrete distinction between "Colorless Mana" (which is something that can be produced) and "Generic Mana", which defines cost. That they were both represented by the same grey-circle number was an inconsistency, and it disallowed using "must be paid in colorless" in a cost without extra rules text on-card. Finally disassociating the two allows them to squish the inconsistency (one piece of iconography representing two distinct concepts) and opens the design space of must-be-paid-using-colorless costs.

I do think this will come with massive but trivial errata to past cards, much like the creation and eventual change of the tap symbol. Now, any cards that add colorless mana to your mana pool will use this symbol rather than , and the iconography will exclusively mean "Generic mana; this is a cost can be paid with one unit of any type of mana".

That's my expectation, anyway.

Yeah, I'm accepting mark's theory as a real possibility at this point. I think it's either that or it's a (very parasitic) type of mana only used in this set.

One has the downside of causing errata for a somewhat common template used since Onslaught (and used in this block already), but the other has the downside of being really awkward game design.

There are a few cards that produce , but nothing that would get too crazy-looking with the new symbol. The only real casualty of getting rid of "add " is the infinity symbol on Mox Lotus, which will never get errata anyway. ):

MAYBE THIS IS OBLIGATE COLORLESS MANA OR MAYBE IT IS ITS OWN THING

IT WOULD BE WEIRD IF IT WAS THE FORMER BUT ALSO IF IT WAS THE LATTER

this has been "razorborne accurately summarizes the last hundred posts in this subforum in all caps"

different mana type would be absurdly parasitic but still less parasitic than yugioh

In this thread: People are surprised that a set starring Kozilek is weird.



I agree. Yu-Gi-Oh is by far the most parasitic Magic expansion. I tried to play it with other Magic sets and it didn't work at all!

Maro says "[Colorless mana matters is] a Kozilek thing. Ingest and Processors were an Ulamog thing."

Possibly implying the ingest mechanic won't be in OGW

Kozilek confirmed for only pure eldrazi. btfo Ulamog harlots.

Did Emrakul mosey on over to Innistrad? Is the Shadow over Innistrad spaghetti-monster-shaped? Are we going from Victorian-era gothic horror in Innistrad to Lovecraftian horror?

I think we will get a land in OGW at common that is identical to Darksteel Citadel except it isn't an artifact and that it swaps for

You mean Wastes?

I mean Wastes, but indestructible.

I bet we will not get Snow-Covered Wastes, and that's a shame.

This.

So far we haven't seen any of these mechanics in OGW

Landfall, Awaken, Converge, Rally, Ingest

I'm hoping that at least one of them returns judging from maro's answer to your question( that I also tried asking , thank you for managing to get it answered).

No problem. I assume that rally is gone, replaced with cohort. I assume ingest is gone cause this set is about Kozilek and that converge is gone cause it clashes with colorless, but Awaken and Landfall will return.