So I finally grinded out all the boosters and I have my decks in what I think is finally a good place. Grixis Control has always been my favorite archetype, so I'll put my two cents in here. Here's my list, I've played maybe 5-6 games with it after I unlocked everything I'm using in it, and there have been some close calls, but I won all of them:

Grixis Control (61)

Land (24)
3 x Evolving Wilds
2 x Drowned Catacomb
2 x Dragonskull Summit
2 x Sulfur Falls
2 x Dimir Guildgate
5 x Island
4 x Swamp
4 x Mountain

Finishers (6)
2 x Alhammarret, High Arbiter
2 x Nightfire Giant
1 x Disciple of the Ring
1 x Erebos's Titan

Creature Removal (12)
4 x Fiery Impulse
3 x Flesh to Dust
3 x Fleshbag Marauder
2 x Reave Soul

Sweepers (3)
2 x Languish
1 x Chandra's Ignition

Permission (3)
3 x Countermand

Card Draw (7)
3 x Telling Time
4 x Inspiration

Utility (6)
3 x Sigiled Starfish
2 x Possessed Skaab
1 x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy


So, some thoughts on card choices...

For finishers, I originally had Kothophed, Soul Hoarder but I found that against most aggro decks it can end up losing you more life than its worth, so I ditched it in favor of the Nightfire Giants, which have been performing pretty well. I view them as somewhat taking the place of Inferno Titan (though drastically power-reduced) in my 2015 Grixis Build, where if there was any doubt about pulling out a win late game against an aggro deck, it's the card that seals the deal. Or if they don't have any creatures it can shorten the clock with direct damage. The only drawback to including it in this deck is that it dies to Languish, but so far that hasn't been much of an issue.

I don't like Avaricious Dragon for my build because it is a very reactive build, so I like to have as many answers in hand as I possibly can at all times. No Chandra or Liliana either because I don't feel like I have enough red spells or expendable creatures to sac and ways to sac them to take full advantage of either one. I have Liliana in my Dimir build, which is a little more focused, and has the Myr and Bone Splinter suite, so she's good there, but not here, I don't think.

Not much to say about the other finishers I have. They are all superstars. Each one has its own way of taking measures to be able to stick, and they have all performed admirably.

I'm currently unsure about Reave Soul. I've been thinking of messing around with the removal package, but I'm not sure what else I would try to put in. Reave Soul would probably be the one I'd drop to test something else though. Fiery Impulse is just so great already that most of the time Reave Soul is redundant.

I really hope we get better permission options as new sets come out. I initially tested this build with 4 Calculated Dismissals as well, but I cut some and eventually all of them because they just didn't hold up late game. 4 mana for Countermand kinda sucks, but there are some cards that you really do want to counter, so I can't go completely without them. Luckily, Disciple is there for backup too, and she can do some amazing things.

As for card draw, I don't believe that Inspiration's cost is too restrictive. Sure,Read the Bones is great at 3 mana, but I just really like having instant speed card draw. I haven't tried out Artificer's Epiphany and Alchemist's Vial yet but that seems like it would be a solid pairing. Telling Time is just too good though, so I don't know if I'd ever cut it. I would love to be able to have 4. Maybe I'll try that other pairing in my Dimir list though, since it has the Perilous Myrs. No room for those in this list.

And finally the utility cards, which have for the most part been performing very well. Anyone who is running a Grixis or even Dimir build, if you take away one thing from this post, please let it be that you should give Sigiled Starfish and Possessed Skaab both a chance. Sigiled Starfish is great for defending against aggro and even greater for smoothing out draws. Being able to scry every turn is nothing to sneeze at. And Skaab is like having a Gravedigger and an Archaeomancerin one. The versatility it provides later in the game is near indispensable, when it can pull something you desperately need from the graveyard, and be a pretty hefty body to trade as well. Jace, on the other hand, hasn't been exactly stellar when I've used him. I mean, he doesn't really come up that often, and when he does, he hasn't made much of a difference. There really is no reason to use his ult, so I basically just use him to +1 whatever and grab a spell from the graveyard whenever I can, but that's kinda what the Skaab does too, so I've been thinking of taking Jace out for the third copy, or maybe something else entirely.

Anyway, that's my list and my thoughts, so if you have any input it would be appreciated.

As far as other builds in this list...

I don't know how I feel about Chandra being a main focus for a Grixis Control deck. Or any planeswalker for any deck, really, with there only being 1 copy of any of them. A control deck wants to be efficient, so it wants its cards to be effective in as many situations as possible. Putting cards in like Twin Bolt and Exquisite Firecraft just with the hope that you will have enough red spells to maybe trigger Chandra if you can get her out doesn't seem worth it when you can have more solid answers in their place. She'd be better used in a RDW deck or maybe a Rakdos aggro/control deck. I can't really imagine a pure control list with black in it going without Flesh to Dust. This is also why I don't care for Disperse or Displacement Wave, the latter of which I initially had during playtesting, expecting a meta heavy with thopters, but even in those matches it didn't do much.

Sorry, this turned out really long...

Seriously though thanks to DJ for the draw package suggestion much better then my old one (and to anyone that commented on my rant thread really)
and thanks mobius for calling me out on my jank with Av Dragon (even though he won't see this he deserves a spot here)
and thanks hakeem for streaming the old deck and giving the world that AMAZING game where you won because of Av Dragon
Edit: how could I forget to thank danno the only person who thought I was even close to being sane on this crazy train. love you danno
now to figure out how to fix my mana...

okay couple of things
flesh to dust over cruel revival? and no edict effect? did you just decide to not even pretend to try and kill gaea's revenge?
if you aren't running tutalage as a win con keep your telling times
chandra doesn't neccisarily need a red spell in hand to untap if you read my first post on the deck you'ld know that she can untap using both desciple and a flipped jace
besides she isn't what usually wins me games thats the tutalage it's just some tech that I thought was cool and really gave me the drive to build the deck at all (even if it is janky)
and the red spells aren't there to activate chandra actually... it's because aura decks happen to be really popular so twin bolt will get 2 or even 3 for ones

well, i have 3 Fleshbag Marauders in that list, so i dunno what you mean by "no edict effect". i guess you skipped over that or something. and i have Flesh to Dust over Cruel Revival because i don't feel i have enough zombies in the deck to justify having Cruel Revival. actually, that decision was made back in earlier playtesting when i didn't have the Nightfire Giants, but i still don't think that's enough zombies in the deck to warrant the swap. especially since i already have the Skaabs to bring back pretty much anything I want, and especially since Cruel Revival can't destroy zombie creatures itself, and i want my removal to be as optimal in as many situations as possible, like i stated in my previous post here. still, from what i've seen so far of the meta, zombies in general aren't exactly popular, so i may end up making the switch in the future.

and it's great that you can use Jace or Disciple to untap Chandra. but those are all 3 one-ofs, so counting on any one of them doing anything beneficial for the other is a stretch at best. Chandra needs red spells most of the time in order to flip, and there just aren't enough solid catch-all red spells fit for a control deck, so Chandra does not have a place in it. you bring up a valid point with Twin Bolt, as sometimes it can be a great 2 for 1, but other times it is just a spell that does 2 damage for 2 mana, which is horribly inefficient. And Exquisite Firecraft is just terrible. if it was an instant it might be passable, but as it is i wouldn't say it belongs in any control list.

neither does Tutelage. this isn't a mill deck. it's fine if you want to build a mill deck, but in a control deck, that card is just taking up space. especially with 3 of them in there. yowza.

anyway i was just giving my two cents on what i've seen posted here already along with my list, and from your response you seem to have taken the criticism not very well, as evidenced by your misreading my removal package and your pejorative phrasing regarding the threat of a Gaea's Revenge. all i can say is if you're gonna post your decklist, be prepared for people to criticize it.

Another thing with Chandra. Swing in with her, do two damage. Play ANY RED SPELL and she untaps! I have swung in, targeted her with Fiery Impulse, pause the turn to tap her again before she dies, watch her Ignite, and get in for two damage more. All for one mana! You can do it by playing a creature too! And the board should be clear to swing in anyways if you have control of it! She works great in Grixis Control!

....and I'm done.

Dude, your not thinking value at all. You play her, pass turn. Clear any blockers she has, if any, and you and promising 2 damage a turn somewhere. I've been doing it on Baba's list and it works! Also, flipping a Walker for 1 mana is awesome! Impluse does two damage, the difference is your putting 2 to the player version Impluse can only target a creature. You just did 5 damage for 1 mana! All to the face even!

i am thinking value. do that with Alhammaret or an Erebos' Titan or a Nightfire Giant and you are doing 5 damage for no mana and without wasting a card, and you also get to do 5 damage the turn after and the turn after and the turn after and your opponent is dead, instead of just 2 damage from Chandra the next turn and the next until she's finally ready for her ult, which unless you've done 5 damage to your opponent prior to or in addition to Chandra, her ult isn't even gonna do lethal unless you hold off three more turns to do it.

sorry, but you're not gonna convince me on this one. she's a subpar finisher for a pure control list.

Your numbers are off. Wrong, at best, you are spending 5+ mana to have the same effect. So with 4 mana, you did 5 damage to the face.

You know both sides of this Chandra debate is making sense to me, lol. As far as the cruel revival goes that will probably come in a lot handier than expected; until we see a real zombie deck and it becomes more of a liability. So far it works great with just having even 3 fleshbags.

okay yeah I honestlyjust glazed over teh fleshbags (guess thats what I get for drinking and criticizing my b) my bad but here's the thing there are like 2 zombies you actually care about killing with an instant speed kill spell all the others die to burn and reave soul 1 is nantuko husk, which can be a real concern and the other is nightfire giant, which is a joke and I know she's subpar (then again alhamret and nightfire are also pretty subpar imo) but I don't care see thats the thing my list is actually fun for me to play and whats more important? having the most streamlind deck ever or you know playing the game in a way that actually gives you some enjoyment?