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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:39 am 
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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:40 am 
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So I could play storage land instead of lotus?


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:48 am 
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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:53 am 
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Mkay. so there's that and lotus lotus 5 damage heal for 5

I like this round

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O.O Inkmoth Nexus + Island + Time Walk


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 4:58 am 
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I have this awful feeling that some hate deck is going to run away with the game because people are trying to do cool things.
Found a list I really liked though.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:37 am 
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Found a deck that it's as terrible as(to me at least) funny.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:56 am 
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Mown wrote:
I have this awful feeling that some hate deck is going to run away with the game because people are trying to do cool things.
Found a list I really liked though.

I got a fun looking list too. I haven't found much hate though...Daze, Discard, and The Rack are the most reasonable ones...Hive Mind and Curse of Echoes the most hilarious.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:21 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:27 am 
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Nice, I was looking at Rush's old tech but I haven't found a way to make it anything other than hate for hate's sake.

I also want to see if there's anything fun to do with Paradox Haze

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:33 pm 
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Thalia is probably pretty good this round, but in case anyone thought otherwise, she doesn't stop epic copies since they're never cast.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 10:44 am 
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I have this awful feeling that some hate deck is going to run away with the game because people are trying to do cool things.
Found a list I really liked though.

Isn't that every alt round?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 11:15 am 
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The biggest hate I've found so far is that there aren't too many alt-round focused decks that are any better than the usual vanilla suspects. I haven't had much time to poke around though.

I really want to find a way to make Heroes Remembered relevant though. I have a feeling the round will be too fast for Storage Lands and anything that will keep me alive until I can cast it...not to mention anything that would actually use it to win (rather than just make some slow game relevant) is too expensive to keep me alive long enough to actually win.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 12:13 pm 
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I found a really cool deck. Although it's not as good as my other cool deck. But I might use it next vanilla round if things stay somewhat the same.
Probably not though, since it dies to Karakas.

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I have this awful feeling that some hate deck is going to run away with the game because people are trying to do cool things.
Found a list I really liked though.

Isn't that every alt round?

To different extents. For this round, the obvious incentive is to cast sorcery spells. Now, I haven't looked into this enough to know whether this is true or not, but let's pretend that Lotus/Lotus/Spell is the most popular deck because it can outrace Storage Land variants or whatever. The winning deck then ends up being Artifact Blast, which actually has an (albeit marginal) drawback this round.

Compare to the Knowledge Pool round (RIP ;_;), where people are probably fighting over who gets to cast Emrakul during the first upkeep step. You actually need to abuse the rules in order to have a chance. I also think the Manifest round is like it, and whatever the name of the second place last poll was.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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So, I found the best possible lockdown card. Problem is, Epic means I have to play my wincon before I play the lock, and the lock also affects me, and the cheapest wincon to go under the lock costs :4:. Is a deck that leaves itself completely vulnerable until turn seven or eight useless, or could it work? Of course, against faster decks I could just lay down the lock for a draw...

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:07 pm 
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I'm thinking turn seven or eight is real bad. Past alt rounds where vanilla decks were viable always had people utterly ignoring the specialness of the round. Dual Titan, Mayor, and lands.dec are all viable. Further, Daze/Chronomaton hates on this round pretty hard basically 3/3ing most decks trying to Epic-out, not to mention Lotus/Thalia and/or Lodestone Golem. Beyond that, there's already been the turn two lockout deck of Time Walk.

Kinda feels like you want to have Epic established turn one...turn two tops...

Or you could just say "screw it" and submit a cool deck!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 3:30 pm 
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I've got four fun decks this round. Only one of them is really competitive:
legacypowerisworsethanmayor.dec
turnonebridgetongs.dec
andthenthereweretourists.dec
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letsstopallthefussinandthefeudin.dec

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Hehe, that's a fun deck if it is what I think it is.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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That is probably my number one choice for lotus-lotus-sorcery

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2015 6:02 pm 
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POSValkir wrote:
I'm thinking turn seven or eight is real bad. Past alt rounds where vanilla decks were viable always had people utterly ignoring the specialness of the round. Dual Titan, Mayor, and lands.dec are all viable. Further, Daze/Chronomaton hates on this round pretty hard basically 3/3ing most decks trying to Epic-out, not to mention Lotus/Thalia and/or Lodestone Golem. Beyond that, there's already been the turn two lockout deck of Time Walk.

Kinda feels like you want to have Epic established turn one...turn two tops...

Or you could just say "screw it" and submit a cool deck!



I'm surprised no one mentioned time walk during the voting period. I immediately noticed that and my all-consuming knowledge of mtg and 3cm would fit into a thimble.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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My favorite deck for the round so far is Lion's Eye Diamon/Chancellor of the Tangle/Unburial Rites, but sadly it doesn't look very good.

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