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PostPosted: Sun May 10, 2015 6:21 pm 
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I can see that, actually. I don't think it needs to be quite that cut and dry, but you do kind of have a point. Like, if he knew how the dicloniuses (diclonii? how do you pluralize that?) were experimented on, then it would make more sense, because he would know how desperately they all need just love and acceptance; but as it is it does fall flat, doesn't it? There were a number of loose plot threads but I didn't comment on them because ultimately I don't care enough about them. If I was interested in the series I would complain about it and probably read the manga, but it just didn't capture me enough for me to care.


It wouldn't make a difference since she killed all his family. That is a tough thing to let it slide.

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Oh, that's fine; and I wasn't trying to convince you to not like it. Engaging in discussion like this is, besides being enjoyable, often can open my eyes to things I may have missed during my first watch -- good or bad or just interesting trivia. For instance, I've heard of The Kite Runner, though I of course have never read it, so that might be something for me to do in future. Thanks for engaging me, though. It was fun.

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It takes a lot of time for a person to change his taste. For example I remember that I read a book from Isaac Asimov when I was young, and I absolutely hated it, so boring. I read it 10 years later and my reaction was OH Snap! This is great!

Yeah! Harmless discussion is great. Count me in again.

PS: If you ever read The Kite Runner, bring a handkerchief. You will need it.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 12:33 pm 
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So while I was watching Elfen Lied, Hulu showed me an advertisement for Rock Lee and His Ninja Pals.

I decided to watch an episode today for the hell of it, because it seemed bonkers.

It is so beyond bonkers.

In the course of the two episodes (two half-length episodes, so like 10-11 minutes each), it broke the fourth wall at least 5 times. As a former Naruto fan, I find it absolutely hilarious.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 5:32 pm 
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So you made a comment about Attack on Titan, and I will comment a little about it.

The characterization I agree is weak. But that is not why the anime is great. The best aspect of AOT is the setting, which is awesome. You are really able to feel the oppressiveness and the sense of desperation. It remembers me of Battlestar Gallactica in this regard. And I simply loved Battlestar Gallactica, specially the first 2 seasons. Humankind is cornered and hopeless, fighting against overwhelming odds for survival.

Other great point is the mystery. Really expertly handled. In the end the mystery may be unworthy, but the way the information is fed to the audience is really great. The journey is the important thing, the end has some impact, but the journey is the important thing to consider.

Other good point for me is the mature themes of the series, which brings it a step over the rest.

Same people complain about the pace of the series, that is something that I proved before, I simply don't care most of the time. I am used to books, which naturally have a slower pace. I am also totally on favor of spending time to develop the characters, instead of wasting it in mindless action.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:28 pm 
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I think I have a several-page-long review of AoT in mjack's anime thread if you want to get more of an impression of my impression of the series, but I'll respond to your points:

One thing I said in said review was that if there's one thing I'll give the show credit for, it's that I immediately wanted to know how the series was going to end by the time the first episode was done. There's a lot left up in the air, like whether they're even on Earth and where the titans came from, and it all really draws you in to begin with. I marathoned all (well okay all but the one recap episode) 26 episodes over a weekend when that happened.

In that regard, yeah, the setting, that is the world is a greatly interesting place. I just don't think the world is really utilized in the show apart from the stage for the most uninteresting characters in the series (hinthint: it's Eren and Mikasa). Unlike in Elfen Lied, I think there are a bunch of interesting characters in the show, but only like 2 or 3 of them are really given any screen time before dying (or, in General Pixis's case... just kinda fading into obscurity). I think it's a crying shame that the show isn't better than it is, but it's kind of overly-concerned with this whiny brat of a kid who was given superpowers and his inexplicably perfect adopted sister.

In my opinion, though, the sense of oppression and hopelessness isn't really there like it should be, or at least in the way it could be. The show could be about humanity as a whole's fight against the titans, but I think it loses much of that in coning its focus down to Eren & co. Like, that scene where half of the refugees from the outer wall are sent out basically to their death because there's not enough food to go around? That's great. Unfortunately, all we see is Eren going "I'm gonna join the army". We don't see the callousness of the people who ordered the exodus. We don't see the conscience weighing on those who must carry out the orders. We don't see any riots or the groups that choose to leave out of duty or martyrdom. All we really get treated to is a condensed version of events, and that takes what could have been an absolutely fantastic scene or episode and turns it into just a good one.

I'll give you mature, but I don't find it really enjoyably mature. It leans a little too "grimdark" for my tastes. I have been hearing a lot about Battlestar Galactica lately, though, and have been intrigued enough to maybe watch it.

I'm afraid I don't see your point on that last one, though. My major complaint is that the show NEVER spends enough time showing the audience something they can connect to -- instead it kind of whacks the audience over the head, grabs them by the shoulders, and yells "FEEL SOMETHING!!!". Point is, it sounds like you're saying you think AoT is slow (or that other people do).


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 10:05 pm 
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yeah you pretty much summed up my entire thoughts on AoT. Great setting and premise, mediocre execution and characters. Too much emphasis on the action and the plotline was too character-driven for my tastes.

I was really curious as to how it ends so i went to read the manga and it gave me the impression that the author doesn't plan on ending it until he's forced to.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:11 am 
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It is because the last point is only partially a point, but many people complain about the pace of the series.

So my final view is: Great setting, interesting plot, above average execution, and weak characters. I kind of like character centric shows, but I agree that Eren is very far from being the best protagonist. That is certainly a failure for this type of series.

And the most important thing to make it a great show in my opinion is the ability in creating a desire for me to watch more. Something that I cannot really measure, but that makes a impression. That is why I rated it higher than, for example, Elfen Lied at IMDB.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:56 am 
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I never go by any number or star rating, and have never really given one (and I kind of regret giving FTL a "recommended" on Steam because it made my actual review lesser for it), though I'm thinking I should maybe start since I like doing review-type things. It would involve categorizing and organizing what I've watched/played, though -- not that I don't already know what would get top marks since I keep a list of anime series I've watched and my general impressions of them.

Also Rock Lee and His Ninja Pals broke the 4th wall five more times by the end of the second pair of episodes. Jegus.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:13 pm 
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Fourth wall breaking is one of my favorite passtimes.

It's why I kept watching Etotama.
That the contests are really nice is also a plus though.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 5:00 am 
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Sorry didnt read through all 31 pages...

Any input on "Is it wrong to try to pick up girls in a dungeon?"

Just finished up Basilisk and Claymore and looking for something new. Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:29 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:49 am 
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i do not think it is comparable to claymore and basilisk based on what i know about those three animes


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 9:35 am 
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The novels, at least, are actually pretty good up ~vol 5.
But at around 5 you start getting tired of what's basically the same story over and over again.

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PostPosted: Sun May 17, 2015 9:24 pm 
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Thanks for the replies. Didn't think it was comparable to claymore or basilisk that was more of "hey this is what ive watched lately."


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Tue May 19, 2015 3:29 pm 
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Finished Shigurui.

I am torn about this anime. I liked it well enough, but it is an incomplete anime in some sense. Not because of the end, we know the end right at the beginning and I don't think the duel conclusion was never intended. The anime doesn't have a piece of the middle, and while not all that important, it is necessary to completely understand the characters and close the story.

Shigurui is extremely violent and slow. Sometimes the slowness is good, because it creates tension. But then they put many filler scenes whose time would be better used in finishing the story or developing the characters more.

I liked that many scenes are only hinted and you need to force your brain to understand them. Sometimes they are direct, but not always.


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Working!!/Wagnaria!! is a pretty relaxing show.

Not as much customer service humor as I was expecting going into it, but was a good watch and the second season seems just as promising 4 episodes in.

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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 10:32 am 
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Fourth wall breaking is one of my favorite passtimes.

It's why I kept watching Etotama.
That the contests are really nice is also a plus though.


Apart from breaking fourth walls, Etotama is really good comedy imo. From the character personalities and interactions to the fights. Definitely one of the best series this season.


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 Post subject: Re: Anime
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:12 am 
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Etotama is definitely in the top for me.
I find myself just slightly more drawn towards Show By Rock. Though that's mostly because of the music and the game.
The anime is sorta Dog Days meets K-On meets Tribute (from Tenacious D).



O right, Etotama Mario Kart episode today. Guess I should go and watch it <_<

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Opinions on JoJo's Bizarre Adventure? I feel like it's terrible for many many reasons...but I can't stop watching it.

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the credits music is good


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