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TPmanW

Post subject: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:50 pm

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Time to make some changes to the card file. People have brought up issues in the past with all the following cards. Now it's time to see how to fix them or whether they're even salvageable. Please post your vote on each of the cards listed below. If you want to fix a card, please suggest an edit.
Remember: The set comes first, so even if you like a card, if it doesn't help the set it probably shouldn't get in.

It's been mentioned that Lightbearer feels uncommon.

Leave it be
Up Rarity
Rework it

It's been mentioned that Wanderer of Illpyre could have better evasion or a bigger body.

Leave it be
Rework it

Written Into History Doesn't match the themes of the set.

Cut it
Leave it be
Rework it

Crushthread Sage allows a turn 3 win. In block constructed. In a block without a second set.
I'm not even going to give the option to leave this be.

Cut it
Rework it

Groveskipper Ouphe presents a lot of memory for a common.

Cut it
Leave it be
Up Rarity
Rework it

Moss Giant's shifting P/T seems red.

Cut it
Leave it be
Make it red

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TPmanW

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:53 pm

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Lightbearer - Up rarity

Wanderer of Illpyre - Leave it be

Written Into History - Cut it

Crushthread Sage - Cut it. Use the rusty scissors.

Groveskipper Ouphe - Cut it

Moss Giant - Leave it be
In a core set or something I would make this red, but I think we want our land cards to be firmly green here.

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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:06 pm

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Viashino Suncaller is the broken card in that combo. Have you read what it does?

Keep Sage, rework Wanderer, cut the rest.

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Lilan

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:14 pm

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up rarity

leave it be

leave it be

not voting

leave it be

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Popular Pariah

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:50 pm

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Up Rarity

Rework

Cut it

Leave it be

Rework

Make it red

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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:50 pm

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Seriously, crushthread is a good card but it's fine.

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Tevish Szat

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Wed May 13, 2015 11:57 pm

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Up Rarity

Leave it be

Cut it

Cut Viashino Suncaller.

Leave it Be

Cut It.

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TPmanW

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 12:15 am

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Okay getting the impression that Crushthread is okay. If you want to direct your hate towards Suncaller I can oblige.

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masterofdoom

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:19 am

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Leave
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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:37 am

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All I see in that link is is an 8 card combo that needs 4 turns.

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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 12:44 pm

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Mown wrote:

All I see in that link is is an 8 card combo that needs 4 turns.

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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 1:34 pm

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Up Rarity
Rework it
Cut it
Cut Suncaller
Leave it be
Make it red

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Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 2:25 pm

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Up rarity
Leave it be
Cut it
Leave it be
Rework it
Leave it be

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TPmanW

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:29 pm

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Well, we have a couple of changes to make to the design file and one card in need of further discussion.
Good work people. This is progress. Well, once the changes are made it will be, but you enabled that progress that hasn't happened yet.

Lightbearer

Leave it be - II
Up Rarity - IIIII
Rework it
Cut it - I

Wanderer of Illpyre

Leave it be - IIIII
Rework it - III

Written Into History

Cut it - IIIIIII
Leave it be - I
Rework it

Crushthread Sage

Cut it - II
Rework it
Leave it be - IIIII

Groveskipper Ouphe

Cut it - III
Leave it be - III
Up Rarity
Rework it - II

Moss Giant

Cut it - II
Leave it be - IIII
Make it red - II

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masterofdoom

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:43 pm

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What will we do with ouphe?

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TPmanW

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 10:56 pm

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Talk more I guess. If I really had to I'd default to reworking it, but instead let's just use the thread to discuss the problem and see if anybody changes their vote or a new voter chips in.

My two bits- I am not a fan of Groveskipper Ouphe's design. I think it's pretty much mandatory that a set have a mana dork though. My problems with the ouphe are twofold: 1- memory issues. 2- Unimportance of the mastery ability.
To solve #1 the ouph could always tap for :g:

or always tap for any color. To solve #2, instead of gaining hexproof just as it becomes irrelevant, it could get a stat boost or go from tapping for :g:

to tapping for any colour.

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masterofdoom

Post subject: Re: Development Voting 1 - White and Green

Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 11:01 pm

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Oh yeah I like the second one.

I change my vote to rework. There's still a tie (a different one), but I really do like the second one you propose more.

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