Do you see right through it because you have wolf vision?

Hey, no one sent me the PM for the Mafia QT.

What gives?

Clearly we all need to calm down and murder Pariah for his super blatant clearly not a joke must be a scumtell slip.

That or rush a Freddeh bandwagon. I prefer the former.

Vote: Popular Pariah

Wow...lots of votes, eh?
Personally, I'd rather get into a meta discussion.

My assumptions:
Wolf can kill each night, I'm assuming that when someone is killed, they are still "alive" but become part of the wolf team.
Wolf can "sire" someone - again, my assumption is that turns the other player into a wolf who can also start killing. I'd expect, and this is just me thinking, that the wolf would look to sire someone earlier, so they might be able to start turning 2 people per night sooner.
Thoughts? Seems like we have a 1/9 chance of ending the game tonight, otherwise, it's just going to get harder and harder to win.

@Numbers - can we just start looking at people's shoulders to see who has bite marks?

You could Neo, but that bar maiden is quite promiscuous and likes to bite so...

That seems really overpowered if that's the case. Assuming we just don't get lucky and lynch or kill the wolf in the first day night cycle, it becomes rather nasty rather quickly. I am assuming one wolf, though I don't remember saying it explicitly anywhere that there is only one.

D1-9 alive (8-1), lynch to 8, night fall wolf sires someone. D2-8 alive(6-2), lynch to 7, night falls one wolf "kills", one sires. D3-7 alive(4-3)

I don't think the wolf can cult with both is abilities like that. Otherwise, the game is just over too quickly if we don't get lucky. If we assume the wolf does actually kill, still pretty grim. I am also assuming sired wolf can sire, but that may be wrong looking at this.

D1-9 alive (8-1), lynch to 8, night fall wolf sires someone. D2-8 alive(6-2), lynch to 7, night falls one wolf kills to 6, one sires. D3-6 alive(3-3)

If the sired wolf can't sire...

D1-9 alive (8-1), lynch to 8, night fall wolf sires someone. D2-8 alive(6-2), lynch to 7, night falls two wolf kills down to 5. D3-5 alive(3-2)

Based on the fact I don't think D-2 is Lylo, I am going to run with the assumption that those the wolf kill do die and not speculate too much into what haunting might be. As well as presume that the sired wolf can't sire or else D2 is also Lylo because otherwise three wolves D3 wins it.



We have a 1/9 chance of ending it today and then, assuming we lynch someone other than the hunter, he would have a 1/8 chance, though perhaps the wolf can sire that night even if the hunter successfully managed to kill him.

On the very bright side, the presumed single wolf will have no allies today. So, hopefully, only one person will be lying. I doubt we will catch him out, but you never know.

Yeah, good point. I think it's pretty clear from the OP that there's only 1 wolf. I guess we'll just have to see what happens at night to see what the bite/sire ability does.

If we're going to throw out random votes...

Vote: Rubik

For completely convincing me that he was town last game...

Pretty shoddy logic there Neo.

Don't pretty my completely legitimate vote isn't making you sweat.

I still think it's better than the reasons KoD and Lilan gave for their votes on Freddeh.

I think it's like 99% certain that only the original wolf can propagate and that only one of them can kill per night because anything else would be unbalanced. I'm willing to bet if we were to hunt him tonight, the spawn would still be borne.

I think there's a small chance you tried to subconsciously establish that you lack familiarity with the mechanics of the wolf role to make us associate you with town by saying that, but I feel like that'd be going out on a limb.

Are you talking about Neo, me, or both of us?

Neo. Explaining the probabilities is fine.

I didn't just explain the probabilities, though. I also, at several points, made it rather clear I was not very familiar with the werewolves variant. Which is true, but besides the point at the moment.

Rubik, why would you ignore me doing it, but go after Neo? Especially given Neo is the first person to try to get us out of the joke phase and I could have merely been latching onto his discussion to appear pro-town? I mean, obviously he could be trying to bypass the joke phase to be seen as pro-town, but why attack only him over something two players did?

I found what he did slightly scummy and I didn't find what you did to be scummy. I don't think that's too hard to understand.

If I attacked both of you, I'd be attacking the very concept of discussion itself which would be completely inane.

It's not hard to understand when presented like that, but I shouldn't just assume that is what you meant.

Let's just not have discussion.