What about adding Craterhoof Behemoth for another wincondition?

edit: I removed one Species Gorger for it.

Nice deck LVD. This deck gets much better with seance though. Seance also solves the problem with lab maniac because you can easily run 1 and get it back with seance.

Come join us in the witch maw thread to help refine the deck.

Screw powerful, play Witch-Maw without Spiders. Ride the Rollercoaster.

I'm not really a fan of him in this deck because we aren't running Elvish Visionary.
He can be a great finisher, but to win on the spot you likely need some Spiders, at which point you might already be ahead.

He's definitely better than the other fatties that are available.



Looking at Hakeem's list, the decks seem to be doing different things.
My Sultai build really tries to win with Spiders and Lab Maniac,
while the Witch Maw build looks to just gain a lot of value and card advantage using Séance.

Both decks have their merits.
I think the Sultai build is a little more consistent, but if Séance gets going the Witch Maw deck can do more powerful things.

Who are you, and what have you done with our Spike.. err.. I mean Hakeem!?

I'm not really a fan of him in this deck because we aren't running Elvish Visionary.
He can be a great finisher, but to win on the spot you likely need some Spiders, at which point you might already be ahead.

He's definitely better than the other fatties that are available.

not win?

A little unfair, perhaps? Although, I did think the same thing, TBH.

I think alot of people on here are tired of dropping Spider Spawning in every G/B/(X) deck. Honestly, it is such a strong card in this format, it is hard NOT to put it into a deck like this (I'd drop the Quest for the Gravelord since it does nothing on its own, in case you were interested). I applaud him for creativity, even though Spawning would make the deck stronger.

I've been testing the Sultai discard deck and here's where I am currently:



Dead Weight was added because this deck gets really annoyed by those early game utility creatures. The card is almost as good as Shock in this format, so it's no surprise that we're playing it here.

The rest of the deck is pretty straight-forward, you have a ton of EtB creatures and the Species Gorger to let you bounce them up and recast them. If you don't disrupt their hand early and beat them to death with your little dudes, you have the Gorger/Horror lock as your endgame. Or you could just stick a Sheoldred. Either plan works. The deck draws a lot of cards, so it is very consistent from my testing so far.

I've gone with Genesis Hydra over Rune-Scarred Demon because it tutors something directly into play, but I may change my mind here. I also like how it's scalable so you can cast it earlier if you just need the blocker, and the deck has a fair number of hits on X=3.

Thoughts?