There's nothing serious about elder mastery..

would be interesting to see a deck that is built around it. i assume it would be like mid-low tier though . wouldn't it be fun it elder mastery would give the enchanted creature hexproof?

there are only three cards I could even consider enchanting it with kalastria highborn, vent sentinel, and Guttersnipe of those three I think vent sentinel is the most reasonable, the problem is a discard/mill strategy is destined to fail because of our friend the butcher of truth

Elixir of Immortality is no picnic either

to be fair: vapor snag, voyages end, shock, peel from reality... everything you do not want to see while you try to let your enchantment resolve basically destroys the whole deck idea. maybe if you splash green and go for the hexproof creatures...

elder mastery sucks.

eh elixir only shuffles when it's used not quite as annoying as kozi

that's why it would be in a deck with counter spells on a guttersnipe,

that would mean you need at least 8 mana open. six for the enchantment and 2 at least for negate.

I never said it was good I just said what you would run it in

fair point.

I wish there was a cantrip that has "the next spell can not be countered" that would be a fun card

there are a lot of cards i wish we had... gelectrode, recoil, daze, gitaxian probe, electrolyze, niv-mizzet, the firemind.

did i mention i love izzet?

some all is dust action would be great, or the shock lands for my aggro decks that would be cool too

Evacuation is also nice for every creature light control deck. shock lands would be awesome as well but to be fair this format is encouraging aggro already and i HATE playing as aggro. i want some trickedy tricks!

wut encouraging aggro what do you mean >_> totally not <_<

maybe it's just me imagining thing but i play against so many aggro decks it's not even funny anymore. usually tokens or weenies. and everytime i play some control heavy decks against them i win or lose wether i get anger of the gods or not.

i referred to the lack of board wipes, only anger of the gods and planar cleansing unless i forgot something. something like infest would be cool. but i assume it's okay the way it is because there aren't too many creatures that buffs the board out of kill range.

i kinda want a banefire in there, any ideas what i can cut for it? do i even need the banefire? guess i want a kozilek aswell...

edit: adjustet the lands a bit

I would do -1 stormbreath +1 obelisk of alara butt it seems good, oh and -2 dimir guildgates +2 arcane sanctums of course

ok i did just that. also -2 talrand +1 kozilek +1 arcane sanctum. figured i don't need his presence with so much removal. might reconsider later on

You're quite close to Hakeem's Grixis Control list. I know he recently changed Tribute to Hunger over to Dissolve (and may have tweaked the mana) but the deck is well tested and quite solid.


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