@Rubik: I misspoke, I meant "on someone that isn't either bandwagon", aka a third party.

Why could you not say this when you initially voted?

Even so, that seems like a gross misinterpretation of what HW said. He at least gave opinions on people, unlike in your post (and no, calling it satirical doesn't help). They may have been a bit wishy-washy, but that doesn't mean much early day 1, when no town should ever really know for sure who is scum. The only way I see this as a scummy post is if Ambar turns up scum (mental note for later), which we have no idea of currently.

@KoD: Yeah, PP is no better on that account, I'll grant that. I would support a PP wagon as well, if only for old times sake.

Also @KoD: I agree with the opinion that Lilan shouldn't have been jumped on merely for being the third vote on a wagon. Making a vote with no given reasoning is the suspect part.

But you are currently voting him?


quote="[url=http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?p=278675#p278675]Ambar[/url]"]

Dropping a third vote this early in day 1 seems like someone trying to get a quick lynch, without any discussion that people could look back on later in the game.

How about I reverse the question. How is dropping a vote like that, without any reasoning supposed to make people think you are town?[/quote]
Then what do you suggest to do if there are already two votes on a player you want to vote?

@rubik:any other suspect other than me?

But if my third vote bothers you that much I can just switch back to master of doom, it's not like he became more townish later,it just that there is no one voting him,no reaction to gauge if I vote him and no case to be made about voting him, so lilan is a better choice.
How would you react to that?
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wait is Lilan actually Rag

hi Rag

hi razor

For people that have different names here and on the mothership:

Lilan=Ragnarokio
Scarlet=JaC
PP = Febb
Numbers = Jay (I think)

Is there something wrong with trying to start a third bandwagon early on D1? Neither of the other two cases felt particularly substantial to me. You yourself are voting for someone who isn't on either of the two bandwagons, there's nothing inherently wrong with doing that.

Sure, I could have said it earlier, but I don't think saying it later was necessarily a bad thing.

I've given my opinion. If you think it's scummy, that's your prerogative.

@HW: Not yet, no. Lilan, Freddeh, KoD, and PP are all behaving normally from my perspective (so far) and I don't think I have strong reference points for how the rest of the people in this game play.

The fact that you feel like changing your vote because it "bothers me" really irks me a bit. From my perspective it feels like you're trying to defuse a vote on yourself, establish a rapport with me, and then casually pass vote onto someone else.

yeah I knew the other three but I thought you were just some random noobscrub. good to see I was right.

Give a reason? I mean, even if it's just a "I'm jumping on that bandwagon" is better than nothing.

No, that kind of reason is no reason at all Ambar.

Any reason is not necessarily better than no reason at all since, take MoD for example, you could post something completely unrelated as a "reason" for voting. Doesn't add any content. At least with voting and not saying anything you can give several appearances: the appearance of agreeing with what is already said on the matter and the appearance of being mafia scum who is obv obv trying to get a quick lynch.

It's a moot point to argue over, but I want you to know I disagree with you on that.

@HW, I meant your own post, not his post.

Unvote. Vote: masterofdoom

Because "reasons".

EBWOP: Didn't know Numbers was JD until after I'd hit the post button. Nothing out of the ordinary from how he normally plays either as far as I can tell.

seems legit

why???

Yes.

Actually, I'm willing to vote ambar. His reason for voting lilan was being the third vote on ambar's own wagon. That seems kind of awful and ambar's earlier post seemed pretty scummy anyway so I'm gonna vote him.
Vote Ambar

Vote Ambar colored

At this point, ambar is my top suspect. Apart from the early post about him, I am suspicious that he threw out the third vote theory as a means to distract people away from him. I don't see how having a 3rd vote is gonna make a quick bandwagon either with 7 to lynch. However, if he thinks a quick bandwagon is out to get him, grabbing any reason to attempt to slow it is possible.

Vote: Ambar

I don't know how to answer to this, obviously I don't think that there is a good chance that I will end up the day still voting the player I voted half a day after the start of D1, but that is just because I don't have any strong read at the moment, that post was an hypothetical scenario to ask you how you would have reacted to me changing vote.

Also I guess that I should tell you that I posted under the username of tmich on the mothership, not that anyone would remember me.

Unvote, vote:master of doom;:it can't be that easy, can it? his post seem all so terrible to me.