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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:47 pm 
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Some smart player once told me, the third vote in, especially without posting any reason, is very likely to be scum.

I feel no need to defend my thoughts. If I were trying to hide something, I'd not post it in the open.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:58 pm 
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You just defended your thoughts.

Besides, I never asked you to defend yourself. That was my strictly my assessment of your post and you.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:39 pm 
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Ambar wrote:
Some smart player once told me, the third vote in, especially without posting any reason, is very likely to be scum.


I'll get in on that action.

Vote: Lilan

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:04 pm 
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What the...? What is this? Isn't day one normally sitting around for days at a time without anyone doing anything? We're an hour in and already sitting on five votes made. That's a new one on me. Though for what it's worth the votes on Lilan have more ground for me then the votes on Ambar - never trust anyone who votes without reason (especially this early in and with this little to go on).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:07 pm 
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is ambar someone from Px2?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:11 pm 
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...sorry this may sound really stupid but what is Px2?

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It was the final iteration of the mafia community on the mothership.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:18 pm 
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Ah right. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:20 pm 
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Not sure. Maybe. I suspect Razor pulled them in from somewhere though.

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Not sure. Maybe. I suspect Razor pulled them in from somewhere though.

I have no idea who Ambar is

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:38 pm 
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The third vote is a load of crock.


It's more indicative of a trend, rather than a specific placement.


Also, for the record, anyone who enjoys music theory is a chump.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:14 pm 
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Lilan wrote:
is ambar someone from Px2?

No


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:14 pm 
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I think the third vote rule is a decent guideline for analyzing wagons post-lynch. Mafia will tend to join wagons on townies if they can't start them (especially if there are competing wagons on their teammates), and that usually puts them on the 3-4th vote statistically.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:42 pm 
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Lilan wrote:
I think the third vote rule is a decent guideline for analyzing wagons post-lynch. Mafia will tend to join wagons on townies if they can't start them (especially if there are competing wagons on their teammates), and that usually puts them on the 3-4th vote statistically.

It's pretty close to a coin toss, statistically. Or at least it was in the later years of Px2.

But more importantly is how it is an idea that is always blown out of proportion. People mention it, and while the best tactic for it is to analyze a game's worth of voting trends later in the game, it's primarily used early game.

It's just not as reliable a metric as many are lead to believe.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:35 pm 
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I find people fall back on it early game simply because they recognize how unreliable it is. It is never going to be a smoking gun, so early game when you have nothing else to go on it's a decent enough reason to throw a vote, gauge some reactions, and start getting a feel for other players. Much better than reaction trolling early game anyways.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:36 am 
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15377 wrote:
I find people fall back on it early game simply because they recognize how unreliable it is. It is never going to be a smoking gun, so early game when you have nothing else to go on it's a decent enough reason to throw a vote, gauge some reactions, and start getting a feel for other players. Much better than reaction trolling early game anyways.

I'm of the opinion that anything does the trick early.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:36 am 
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It's a useful excuse for mafia to find a reason to shift blame.

That said, Lilan not providing at least a 'Just wanted to bandwagon' reasoning is slightly scummy.

I'm sticking with Ambar though.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:54 am 
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Lilan wrote:
The mafia are named after augmented intervals.

Vote:lilan. you were supposed to said something useful here.
But I can see the reasons for voting ambar too.
I'm waiting until some more lurkers post before thinking too much about who is scum.
Number claim was weird, but it's number.
I'm still a bit worried about him, but voting him now will probably do nothing.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:55 am 
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But I don't find that third vote particularly scummy


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