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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:32 pm 
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But waiting a turn isnt playing optimally...to me, if you CAN win without passing, you have to.Nvm, I see, its triggered on the upkeep. Yeah, ok, maybe I should poke around a bit more.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:30 pm 
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I got a pretty solid deck for Medallion. Turn 1 Infinite is an illegal deck isn't it. Needs to wait till turn two otherwise it can win before the opponent can play.

helix pinnacle is the classic solution to this problem. you make infinite mana, at least one of it green, then play pinnacle, give it a billion counters, and wait a turn.

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or emrakul

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 4:49 pm 
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Such idealism...although if everyone did it you're right. Otherwise the Power Gamers win. We can't have that can we? It is the sole duty of the Johnny, the Brewer, and the Hobbyist to beat the Power Gamer in the most flamboyant and practical fashion possible or to otherwise remind them we are just as good, but our creativity threatens their throne with every new card.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:46 pm 
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I think medallion is going to win. Anyone want to discuss that a bit?

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:41 pm 
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That is deliciously dirty and also probably too slow to be any good.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:02 pm 
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So the concept here is that we keep the good decks we think of to ourselves and just list the decks that our real decks would eat alive in hope that someone grabs a doomed-but-seemingly-good idea and runs with it?


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:57 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:10 am 
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The concept to me is to discuss the Meta. It's difficult to do without discussing decks, because certain archetypes are limited. I try not to just list decks. To me discussing the meta is more about discussing the percentages of the types of decks that will be seen. Then I can craft the most successful goofy deck. I failed last round :P

At the end of the day, though, if the meta discussion lands on LLF as the most likely to win deck, its bound to become a discussion of which threat is the best against the current meta, which seems to devolve into a discussion on actual deck compositions which beat the intended fatty etc.

I've been trying to keep my meta discussion until the last few days as a kind-of "hopefully it appeases those who don't want to discuss the meta in public" crowd.

Edit: That said, since it's already begun...I suspect control decks will be particularly relevant this round if your trying to snag a ton of points. The lowered cost of cards will most likely cause people to throw caution to the wind in an all in play...the listed decks kinda reinforce that point. But now that I've said it, maybe people will get all cautious huh? :P

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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POSValkir wrote:
The concept to me is to discuss the Meta. It's difficult to do without discussing decks, because certain archetypes are limited. I try not to just list decks. To me discussing the meta is more about discussing the percentages of the types of decks that will be seen. Then I can craft the most successful goofy deck. I failed last round :P

At the end of the day, though, if the meta discussion lands on LLF as the most likely to win deck, its bound to become a discussion of which threat is the best against the current meta, which seems to devolve into a discussion on actual deck compositions which beat the intended fatty etc.

I've been trying to keep my meta discussion until the last few days as a kind-of "hopefully it appeases those who don't want to discuss the meta in public" crowd.

Edit: That said, since it's already begun...I suspect control decks will be particularly relevant this round if your trying to snag a ton of points. The lowered cost of cards will most likely cause people to throw caution to the wind in an all in play...the listed decks kinda reinforce that point. But now that I've said it, maybe people will get all cautious huh? :P

And then a deck made of lands wins.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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Just like any other Vanilla round! Woooo!

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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Mown wrote:
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Congratulations. You've got Emrakul. lol


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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Wait...that is amazingly awesome Rush...I fully respect you...but you know the issue...none-the-less, I salute you.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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So OP you have to break the rules to do it.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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I reached the same win-con when thinking about looping tops.
Some digging later made me want to play Black Lotus/Sensei's Divining Top/Robot Chicken, which I never knew was a 'card'. Although there are probably better cast triggers out there.

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