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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:44 pm 
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I honestly don't think that's that bad a deck, it beats non-wasteland chancellor and all the foil decks.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:13 pm 
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Oh...my "joke" was based on my flawed idea that all the Eldrazi were uncounterable. Sorry Rush! (I thought Rush just picked the most expensive version)

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:24 pm 
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Any Legendary Eldrazi would beat the Foil deck. Even Kozilek, despite being the worst choice by far.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:25 am 
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I don't really think Foil is the deck to beat, especially because you can just tie it to keep it's points down and still crush all the Channex variants. That's why I think Desert is stronger than Wasteland here.

Desert auto-ties Foil while still providing you your wincon vs. Channex. No variant of Channex is stronger against Desert than Wasteland, at worst they perform equally, but there are several variations Desert is the better choice against. The right wincon (I think we all know who we're talking about, although I can think of three good ones) means you don't even need to worry about blowing up Cathedral.

Those same wincons are highly competitive against the rest of the field.

Edit: Ok, there is one Channex variant that's better against Desert than Wasteland, and I can only think of one version that beats Wasteland and not Desert. The rest of the variants seem to give the same amount of points regardless of which land is chosen.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:50 am 
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Turned in a deck for the first time.
Then read this thread and realized that the deck is going to die a horrible death.
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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 2:53 am 
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lol, at least you didn't submit a deck that literally can't win right? That's what I did my first go...

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:04 am 
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Haha, Noxious Revival, Lotus, Threat. (I know it loses to Foil. I just think it's cute vs. Channex)

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:09 am 
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It has a creature and it has the land to play it, so it will win vs 3 blank cards, at least.

EDIT: NO IT WONT. I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT SOMETHING AND THE DECK DOESN'T WORK.
Do we just turn in a substitute deck in this case?

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:13 am 
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Yeah, Jim takes resubmits. I do it just about every round :P (I haven't yet this round! I'll stick by my pile of garbage!)

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:14 am 
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You can turn in as many decks as you want up to deadline, Jim only takes the most recent one.

@POS: Why not just Lotus-Lotus-Three drop? or Gut Shot-Lotus-Three Drop?

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:20 am 
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Because Revival is like standing up to a bully. Even if they take your lunch money, youre getting it back. The other cards just ignore the bully.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:26 am 
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POSValkir wrote:
Haha, Noxious Revival, Lotus, Threat. (I know it loses to Foil. I just think it's cute vs. Channex)


Noxious Revival
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Although I might rather go gut shot over noxious revival if I was going to do this.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:28 am 
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lol, that's a big tongue to stick out. Clever.

Edit: Hmm, with Gut Shot that might actually work out ok. I don't know if its better than other options though. Forgot it was a Channex round.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:33 am 
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It would beat double inkmoth, tie foil, and only lose to one channex variant.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:40 am 
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Would it?

Double Inkmoth Cathedral wins in 5 rounds, I think Froggie needs 6:

t1: Gut Shot for 1
t2: Attack and Shot (5)
t3: Attack and Shot (9)
t4: Attack and Shot (13)
t5 Attack and Shot (17)
t6 Kill

Edit: They both win in 6 rounds huh...3-3?

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:41 am 
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POSValkir wrote:
Would it?

Double Inkmoth Cathedral wins in 5 rounds, I think Froggie needs 6:

t1: Gut Shot for 1
t2: Attack and Shot (5)
t3: Attack and Shot (9)
t4: Attack and Shot (13)
t5 Attack and Shot (17)
t6 Kill

You can gutshot inkmoths.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 3:42 am 
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Ah yes, before exalted kicks in.

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 4:20 am 
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I thought Inkmoth/Cathedral couldn't win until turn 7. Inkmoth has summoning sickness, and Cathedral EtB tapped, so how do you attack before round 3?

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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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:) Round 2 is going to be so much fun fun fun. The aftermath of round 1 is going to drive people nuts.


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 Post subject: Re: 3cm meta discussion
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Should I play a logical deck,play a joke deck or try to manipulate the metagame?


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