There is definitely some activity during the night, you hear some rummaging, but as the sun comes up and you look out to the group, everyone seems to be accounted for.

A headcount confirms your suspicions. There has been no loss of life tonight.

It is now D3.
10 days to end the day (Fri feb 13th).

8 people alive, 5 to lynch.

SUCCESS!

Which confirms Numbers as town, though that was probably pretty obvious by now.

Well I'm not convinced.

@Zinger, I posed a question yesterday that you never got back to answering. Granted it is fairly cryptic, but if I'm right I think you'll know what I mean. I'll ask again to start today off, is more detail an extreme detriment to town? A simple yes or no will suffice.

If you still aren't convinced that I'm the town protective role, you could ask for a counter claim.
Reasonably speaking, there are only 2 mafia left. There are 6 of town.
Even losing a protective role, the chances will be great going into the next day with 5 town and 1 mafia, especially if you have a vig role on your side.

Yes.

I first want to point out that it was a rather easy scum lynch yesterday. I don't think Neo being Mafia makes story, the player who was agreeing with him to some extent, more or less scum, though. It's hard to picture 2 scum players making the same mistake.



I'm assuming you're implying that you targeted Numbers last night and the fact that there was no NK is making you believe you saved him. But, couldn't that also mean he's the Mafia killer and that you blocked him?

@Fel

That might be a possibility.
The conspiracy theorist in me also tells me mafia could bus mafia, then target themselves for the kill since he then made the perfect target for me to protect, but I think that one's a stretch.

From an outside perspective indeed it could. But one could argue that the mod confirmed whether the ability in question could stop a nk, a statement we cannot verify since the mod wouldn't be able to answer a third party question without overstepping his own bounds.

The situation is incredibly tricky because of this. It's pretty much guesswork from here, which is why I said I'm not convinced. A scum Story, I do not feel, would try to claim he stopped me performing the nk because if I die and then flip town, it would be absolutely clear that Story didn't stop the nk by blocking me and town would have to reason out what exactly happened, but more than likely Story would be lynched for lying. However, if a scum Story were to claim to have to stopped the nk by saving me, he gets to pull town cred for a pro-town action and also lends credence to his doc claim, where if he failed to ever protect anybody it might be argued that he's simply a role blocker trying to trump up his claim to seem more townly, with only a true doc claim counter such a thing.

What I can confirm on the matter is that I was indeed targeted last night. Flavor behind the target lends credit to Story's character claim and at least the roleblocking half his claim. I cannot confirm there was even an attempt on my life last night however, so that part is going to remain speculation.

@Story: If I choose to pursue the notion that you are definitely scum, I will not be asking for a counter claim, I'll just be coming for your head. If you are scum and there is a protective role out there in town, outting him to evidence that you're scum is not in the town's best interest. If you aren't scum and our only protective role, then mafia have had ample time to rid themselves of you if they deemed you were actually a threat. If they do not feel you are so then I don't see why town should place a great emphasis on your being some kind of town savior, making you just as expendable a role as any other.

I know. I'm only telling you to ask for the counter claim because I'm pretty sure I'm the only protective role in this game.
Even if I were scum, I think I can safely claim that I'm in a tenable position right now, such as not to have to go for the last-ditch effort of outing the doc in exchange for my life.

I'm not sure where I made myself out to be the savior of town.
I am rather curious about that flavor you mentioned, though. Are you allowed/willing to share?

If you're scum outting the doc wouldn't be a last ditch effort, nor would it be an exchange for your life. It is more of a throw away effort. If it seems like you're going out, claim a role. If you get countered, props to you for outing players for the scum team. If you don't there's your angle for arguing survival. It costs you nothing and has the potential to yield to you everything. I see no reason, as scum, why you wouldn't take the opportunity.

I don't feel sharing it is prudent at this juncture. I am more curious about your night 1 actions, actually. I'd like to know who you targeted night 1, and then I'd like to see them share what they were told, to see if it correlates to what I know before giving away that information myself.

I am still suspicious of story. Just saying.

I'm not sure if you just aren't understanding me, or if you have no intention of understanding me.
It is greatly unfavorable to mafia to trade a member for a doc right now. And I believe I'm still in a decent enough position such that if I were mafia, I'd rather continue on my way as an uncontested protective role than to go for the trade with the "real" protective role.

I think it's late enough in the game to share my N1 action, but be forewarned that it makes mafia NKs easier to aim.
Do you wish to proceed? [Y/N]

What you're saying would only be applicable if you were scum claiming out of the blue today. That is not the case since, for starters, you didn't claim today. You claimed day 1, when you felt you were in danger of being lynched, which would put you squarely in the camp I'm describing. It's not a matter of me not understanding you, it's a matter of you not placing your claim into the correct context.

The only way it'd make it easier is if your ability had a targeting restriction, which you haven't not claimed it does so giving us a target would not make it easier for them without you claiming to have one first. Claiming to have one at this juncture would only serve the purpose of helping the mafia or creating a reason to not have to claim a target for night 1. With that said, yes I want to proceed.

I think it is prudent to No Lynch today, since we now definitely have the numbers to reach Day 6 and win.

I don't see why not. Though there is no reason to end the day early (I know you aren't suggesting it, I'm just saying it) when we can scum hunt and be in a better position.


I want to hear storyteller's night 1 target as well.

If there were no restrictions I wouldn't be so loathe to give out the information.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS.
Again, do you wish to proceed [Y/N]

Also, answer quickly because
@MOD
I'll be moving to Japan over the next few days.
IDK when I'll have internet access again, but I expect it to be next Monday or thereabouts.

I've already answered, stop stalling.

I targeted myself N1.

How convenient.

Vote: Storyteller

Lovely. You're going to lynch the uncontested protective role who (assuming you're not scum) managed to save you last night.
I'd like to see one more night before dying, because personally, I've received 0 flavor messages from Scarlet up to this point, and I find it suspicious that you seem to have gotten a supposed flavor message.
Something to think about for when I flip town.