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 Post subject: [Plane]Ellysium
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:06 pm 
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So, this is a bit of a review for those who haven't seen the world for a while, or for those who are new to it.

The entire premise of Ellysium was to utilize the iconography and imagery found in abrahamaic religious texts, mostly shying away from the more generic pop culture interpretations of what an angel is and in general play around with another concept: Five Mono-colored Angelic branches. To give an idea about the aesthetics that went into this world, it was primarily a combination of Celtic and Mediterranean, instead of the more classical middle centuries anglo-saxon or italian baroque imagery. Technologically they are just past medieval levels, but the angelic rule caused a technological plateau.

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So, there we have the revised information I've been working on for the past while. I really tried to streamline a lot of the info that was already there, edited some of the way the info was worded, and made some changes that I think work better for the world at large.

The primary thing that I lack now is significant locations. I am unsure how much more work I am willing to put into creating locations, but I am opening creation up for everyone to contribute if they want to. The naming conventions I've established for the various factions are:
Red: Hebrew
White: Italian
Blue: Roman
Green: Celtic
and lastly Black: Southeastern Asian

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:48 am 
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I'll have to read through this again to refresh my memory, but this was pretty much the first M:EM project I helped out with. So, yay, memories!


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I'll have to read through this again to refresh my memory, but this was pretty much the first M:EM project I helped out with. So, yay, memories!

There are probably some things that won't match with what you remember since I've done some alterations to make it a little more rounded.

As far as most of the information goes, I'm pretty solid on where I am with it all, but as I said, I'm eager to see what other things people might be willing to add. Foremost this means locations that anybody would like to create, but in general, there are some notably absent locations as it is, so I'd kind of like it if people felt open enough to fill in those important locations as well. I think I've put enough information out there that anybody that was interested would feel comfortable enough creating that sort of thing.

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Ah yes, I remember this one. Still stands as one of my favourite M:EM created worlds, not in the least because I like monstruous biblical angels.

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Yes, the angels. As a Christian who actually reads the Bible, the stupid baby Cherubs have annoyed me for years. While this world obviously lacks some other Biblical qualities, it is quite refreshing to see someone get the imagery right. There is a reason the first thing most angels in the Bible say is: "Do not be afraid"...

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Here's a random and only tangentially related question. Considering Wizards doesn't seem to allow either, if you could only have one, would you want male angels, or female demons?


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Here's a random and only tangentially related question. Considering Wizards doesn't seem to allow either, if you could only have one, would you want male angels, or female demons?


Male angels. They have no excuse after making female archons.

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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Yes, the angels. As a Christian who actually reads the Bible, the stupid baby Cherubs have annoyed me for years. While this world obviously lacks some other Biblical qualities, it is quite refreshing to see someone get the imagery right. There is a reason the first thing most angels in the Bible say is: "Do not be afraid"...

Fun art history fact: they're imported from the Romans, and shouldn't be called Cherubs at all--they're Putti!

I need to read through all of this. I'll try to... soon.


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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Yes, the angels. As a Christian who actually reads the Bible, the stupid baby Cherubs have annoyed me for years. While this world obviously lacks some other Biblical qualities, it is quite refreshing to see someone get the imagery right. There is a reason the first thing most angels in the Bible say is: "Do not be afraid"...

To which most responses are "BWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAH!"
Here's a random and only tangentially related question. Considering Wizards doesn't seem to allow either, if you could only have one, would you want male angels, or female demons?
Male Angels seem to be doable without any issues. The more worrisome side of the coin would be the literal demonization of female sexuality. Let's face it, if they're aiming for female demons, it is very likely they'll be succubi.
Fun art history fact: they're imported from the Romans, and shouldn't be called Cherubs at all--they're Putti!

I need to read through all of this. I'll try to... soon.
Yep! And despite the imagery often associated with cupid, they had very little in common with Eros.

As a side note, even though I consider this world close to complete, it's still open to suggestions and completely public to add locations since... I really need some key locations in certain quarters of the world.

Oh, and Helio, sorry I didn't thank you sooner for the compliment. I appreciate it and I really need the boost right now, so it is well timed.

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What kind of locations do you need? Since I'm suffering perpetual writer's block on the big story I'm working on, I might as well do some small writing for you...

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Aaarrrgh wrote:
What kind of locations do you need? Since I'm suffering perpetual writer's block on the big story I'm working on, I might as well do some small writing for you...

I would love that!
The locations that I have right now are the Angelheims, major locations for the Veldt Principalities (The Capitol, Military Capitol, and Largest Port), the Funerary Catacombs for the Gorgons, and the Goliath capitol.

Either the Flamekin Mesa cities, Human green cities, or the Vedalken ports could use the most development. At the very least they all could use capitols of their own there. Feel free to do pretty much anything though. White is pretty well rounded so it doesn't need much.

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I was thinking of writing something for the Vedalken, but I just wanted to know if you have a specific idea of what kind of islands make up the archipelago. Are they volcanic, or coral, or something else, or do you not care?

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Aaarrrgh wrote:
I was thinking of writing something for the Vedalken, but I just wanted to know if you have a specific idea of what kind of islands make up the archipelago. Are they volcanic, or coral, or something else, or do you not care?

I hadn't thought too much of it, but I think after is said and done, a coral chain seems more interesting than a volcanic chain.

This is a good question to ask, helps me think of the world in ways that I didn't consider.

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Actually, after some research, I would like it to be a combination of both. There's a very simple reason, too: a coral atoll on top of a volcanic crater could form a near perfect circle, which makes a neat connection with the fact that the blue angels have halos. Also, I sort of picture this circular wall with a single opening which leads to the port, which is in the center of the city. Would that work for you?

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Aaarrrgh wrote:
Actually, after some research, I would like it to be a combination of both. There's a very simple reason, too: a coral atoll on top of a volcanic crater could form a near perfect circle, which makes a neat connection with the fact that the blue angels have halos.
As long as it is very apparent that there isn't any further seismic activity.
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Also, I sort of picture this circular wall with a single opening which leads to the port, which is in the center of the city. Would that work for you?
That bit seems a little much to be honest. More, I'd sort of prefer to avoid the image of walled cities on Ellysium, in part because that's an aesthetic that more fits Phostus. (but to also emphasize the difference in regular cities and the white prison colonies.)

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