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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:40 pm 
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Tempt with Immortality - (R)
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Tempting offer - Return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Each opponent may return a creature card from his or her graveyard to the battlefield. For reach player who does, return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:41 pm 
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I...what!?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 1:49 pm 
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Silly design tbh

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:01 pm 
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Really not impressed by the new mechanic. Feels a little idiotic.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:15 pm 
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This mechanic is amazing.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 2:46 pm 
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Interesting. I'd run it.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:55 pm 
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LilyStorm wrote:
This mechanic is amazing.

Figures youd say that, Wizards could make a "you lose" mechanic and you would like it.

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Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:58 pm 
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I like fun more than I like to win. If all players aren't having fun its not worth playing.

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I never take anytihng Lily says seriously, except for when I take it personally. Then it's personal.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:58 pm 
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Are you kidding? This mechanic is bonkers. I'm completely with Chaos.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:03 pm 
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Its really not amazing at all

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Gehennah, true kings of poseur-slaying wrote:
Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:39 pm 
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What, about "For each player who does, return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield", is bad?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:41 pm 
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Its a powerful card but the mechanic is ****. Tempting offer is just lame as ****.

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Gehennah, true kings of poseur-slaying wrote:
Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:35 pm 
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Tempting offer is great for commander. Which is what they designed it for. Certain people obviously don't really play cooperative multi-player. This specific card is on par with other reanimation spells, with a twist. In a proper deck, your opponent will have to think long and hard about if its worth it.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 7:42 pm 
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I played a lot of cooperative multiplayer in my day. but this card basically screams "tired rehash" and if theyre just gonna do one cycle with the ability word (like they did for channel and sweep, even though sweep was 2 cycles, didt they vow to not do one-off mechanics anymore?) That shows WotC's hypocrisy and weak judgment.

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Gehennah, true kings of poseur-slaying wrote:
Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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I played a lot of cooperative multiplayer in my day. but this card basically screams "tired rehash" and if theyre just gonna do one cycle with the ability word (like they did for channel and sweep, even though sweep was 2 cycles, didt they vow to not do one-off mechanics anymore?) That shows WotC's hypocrisy and weak judgment.

I am literally unable to parse your argument here. I think the brackets might need rejigging.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:13 pm 
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I know I phrased it poorly. lack of sleep, too lazy to fix

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Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 9:43 pm 
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This is commander. Any keywords are for flavor and to help players remember what cards do.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:00 am 
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So? Just because it's commander doesn't mean ****. They don't have to clog the text box with unnecessary ability words, when it's likely only gonna be used on one cycle of cards TOPS.

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Suddenly she stood there close to me, a woman too grotesque to even be
I felt quite dim but I was still aware, that I was too drunk to see or care
I said "Baby, metal is what I need; not some bloody ***** to feed"
She looked at me with stupid eyes, then I gave her my advice

"Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!
Piss off, I'm drinking! Piss off, or die!"


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Tempt with Immortality - (R)
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Tempting offer - Return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. Each opponent may return a creature card from his or her graveyard to the battlefield. For reach player who does, return a creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

Illus. Philip Straub


So you return a creature. (first sentence)
Each opponent ponders if they want to also. (Second sentence).
If and only if they do, you may return an additional creature to the BF for each opponent that exercises this option.

Is this right?


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PeregrineV wrote:
So you return a creature. (first sentence)
Each opponent ponders if they want to also. (Second sentence).
If and only if they do, you may return an additional creature to the BF for each opponent that exercises this option.

Is this right?

Yes.

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