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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 6:33 pm 
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It would have to be actual games, but after my exp boost's duration runs out in LOL sure I would be up for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
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It would have to be actual games, but after my exp boost's duration runs out in LOL sure I would be up for that.

Why would it need to be actual games? Do you want to be called a feeder that badly?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 7:36 pm 
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I would heavily advise against playing a game of dota with actual players until you've played at least 3 bot games, ideally more. You don't learn to swim by jumping into the deep end with no floaties.

Anyways, some tips for starting out:
-During the first 5-10 minutes of the game, don't attack enemy creeps unless you're getting the last hit. Doing so will push the creeps further from your tower, making it harder for you to escape if they try to kill you.
-If you're taking aggression from enemy creeps or towers in the early game, back out.
-Start with an easy hero. Examples are viper, sven, wraith king, ogre magi, and lich.
-Before you play, go to the settings menu and turn auto attack off.
-Learn to use hotkeys for items and abilities.

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:50 am 
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Despite increasing evidence that I'm the only person who reads this thread, I've decided to make a brief guide to my favorite hero, dark seer:

What are dark seer's skills?
http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Dark_Seer

What role does dark seer fill?
Dark seer is a solo offlaner who uses ion shell to last hit from a safe distance with ion shell while making it difficult for the enemy carry to farm, and can escape from ganks with surge. While his skills don't scale particularly well with farm, he can use the gold he gets to buy important utility items for his team.

So how do I play dark seer?
First, you're going to want to make sure that you get the offlane to yourself. Ion shell will push the lane hard, making it difficult for your lane partner to last hit, sometimes even to survive.

Next, you're going to want to buy a stout shield, a set of tangos, a healing salve, and a soul ring recipe, then head to the offlane. Then you'll want to figure out how many people you're laning against. Usually it will be 2-3, and if that's the case, wait until your creep wave is about to reach theirs, then put an ion shell on the melee creep that's 2nd or 3rd in line. The front creep will take aggro and die first, and the ranged creep won't get close enough to do anything with the shell. However, if you're laning against a single opponent, ion shell yourself, then stand in the middle of the enemy creep wave. If the enemy approaches, move towards them and right click them. If they don't, focus on last hitting.

Now I'll talk about skill and item builds. For skill build, you're going to want to max ion shell first, leveling it at 1, 3, 5, and 7, while getting surge at level 2 and possibly 4 if you think your opponents have that much kill potential. After that, put all your points into vacuum. Your ultimate is a tricky thing. Since it's pretty ineffective until you have several points in vacuum, you don't want to get it too early. I usually go for it after I have 3-4 points in vac, but I've heard a lot of different opinions on the subject. The item build is pretty simple. You want to build soul ring first, then boots. I personally prefer tranquil boots, but it's perfectly acceptable to build arcane boots or simply stick with the basic boots. After that, buy a magic stick, which you can upgrade to a wand if you want (I usually don't because I'm trying to rush mek), then buy a mekansm. From there, you can go for any number of items, depending on what you and your opponents are playing. Pipe of Insight and Shiva's Guard are strong in teamfights if your opponents have a lot of physical or magical damage, and Black King Bar can be an OK choice some games. You could also go for a blink dagger to better use your wombo combo, or a scythe of vyse to lock down an enemy. An aghanim's scepter can be nice lategame, but since it's much stronger lategame, it's probably a bad choice to build early.

So, now that that's out of the way, let's go back to the game. You were ion shelling creep waves to last hit, right? Well, by now you probably have your soul ring and boots, so you can try "creep cutting". What you're going to want to do is ion shell yourself, go around behind their tower through the jungle, and get the enemy creep wave to start following you before it even reaches their tower. Then you're going to want to run, because this is the perfect opportunity for the enemy team to kill you. Once the enemy heroes stop chasing you, position yourself in the middle of the enemy creep wave and burn it out with ion shell. This guarantees you all the last hits, and forces the enemy heroes to tank your (probably ion shelled) creep wave under their own tower.

There are some offlane heroes that just want to get a couple of levels and brown boots, then go around ganking lanes. Dark Seer isn't one of them. Unless they're diving your teammates under tower, you probably want to stay in lane until you get your mekansm, 3-4 points in vac, and at least one point in wall of replica. Once you have those, though, you want to start grouping up with your team and pushing a lane. The early mek should give your team a huge advantage. Keep 5manning until you win the game.

What are some tips and tricks for dark seer?
-Remember to use your buffs on your teammates. A timely surge on an ally can secure a kill or save a life, and ion shelling your melee carry can give some good damage.
-Vacuum has a ridiculous cooldown, don't use it lightly.
-Your base damage and armor are both pretty high, so you can trade hits with most heroes at level 1.

fun fact: i have played 6 dark seer games to your 109, but I have bought blink dagger on him twice as many times as you have

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:16 am 
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I think the biggest difference between me and most dark seer players is that I think his ult is overrated. Yeah, you can blink in and get a clutch vac wall, but the illusions take like 300% damage so they'll probably just die in the huge barrage of AoE nukes that happen in every teamfight, and right clicks don't even matter than much until the lategame. I'd rather get a pipe, scythe, or shiva's guard that I know is going to do something than gamble on a flashy but unreliable combo.

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 7:10 pm 
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i don't think it's an amazing ult either, but blinking all over the place is one of my favourite things about dota

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 12:14 am 
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I mean I like blink too, but I don't think he needs it. I'll rush blink on centaur or axe or tide, but on a hero that already has surge, it just seems like a waste of 2k gold.

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 1:06 am 
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i agree


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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:34 am 
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Does DotA 2 play in offline mode for things like versus bots games?

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:09 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 12:29 am 
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Natus Vincere vs Teamerino Tinkerino:
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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:29 am 
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and here I thought I was the only person whose favourite hero is Dark Seer.. He was my favourite even when he had the old ugly as ass draenei character model

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:33 am 
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holy heck, Earth Spirit is ridiculously fun
i never thought i'd say this, but meepo is in danger of no longer being my favourite hero

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:57 am 
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My personal favorites are sniper, dark seer, and crystal maiden.

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:03 pm 
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my favourite is teemo


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:51 pm 
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Go back to HoN.

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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:45 pm 
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Cato wrote:
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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:30 am 
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Sniper gets a lot of hate, but I actually enjoy him. It's all about positioning yourself so that you can dish out damage without being targeted. For that reason, I like getting mobility items on him, like drums and yasha. My build of choice is:

starting items: tangos, wraith band
early items: boots>aquila>magic stick>treads>bracer>drum
Lategame items: yasha>manta>skadi>butterfly>Boots of Travel>daedalus>MKB/BKB/Satanic as the case may be.

Also if you build shadow blade on him you are cancer. I don't care if your MMR is too low for people to buy dust.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:02 am 
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my favourite item for the sniper is the sydney sleeper


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 Post subject: Re: Dota 2
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:29 am 
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Also if you build shadow blade on him you are cancer. I don't care if your MMR is too low for people to buy dust.


at least we can agree on that

do you ever do the max shrapnel build? I don't play sniper so I've never tried it, but I've heard it's pretty good

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