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chinkeeyong
 Post subject: Re: M15 draft 1!
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:42 am 
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Solemn Offering because nothing really worth hating.

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Yes, Solemn Offering for the sideboard should be the correct pick.

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I Solemnly accept this Offering.

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Sure, I'll take the SB card over nothing.

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I'll go with chinkeeyong on this. I don't think we need the First Response, so I'm happy to rare-draft this.

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I find CKY's choices to be good

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First Response just because I might be struck by inspiration on when to use it and really, 2 stain the mind?
Moss Beast because 5 toughness is annoying
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I agree with Zenbitz that Beast is the better hate. beast is a fine BDG if they need one, whereas Statute is a 4-mana counter that doesn't even net you CA. it's not going in. I'd rather have Stain than response though. the others are unambiguous.

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Zenbitz wrote:
First Response just because I might be struck by inspiration on when to use it and really, 2 stain the mind?
Moss Beast because 5 toughness is annoying
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chinkeeyong
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We've passed like a million Carnivorous Moss-Beasts though.

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We've passed like a million Carnivorous Moss-Beasts though.

yeah but so have the people we passed them to, probably. they're not good, but they're serviceable. it costs too much but sometimes you just need a guy that's bigger than their guy, and Moss-Beast can be that guy. Statute is unplayable, so there's no sense hating it.

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Tevish Szat wrote:
Deck

Land (18)
12x Plains
6x Swamp

Creatures (16)
2x Selfless Cathar
1x Ajani's Pridemate
2x Kinsbaile Skirmisher
3x Sungrace Pegasus
2x Midnight Guard
2x Paragon of New Dawns
1x Razorfoot Griffin
1x Avacyn, Guardian Angel
2x Carrion Crow

Other Spells (7)
1x Devouring Light
1x Sanctified Charge
1x Stab Wound
2x Flesh to Dust
2x Covenant of Blood

That's 61 cards.

But I still think that'd be pretty close to my deck. I probably don't run 18 lands as often as I should, but I feel like this is a safe one for 17? I do think Juggernaut's gotta get an inclusion, probably at the expense of one of the Paragons. I might cut the Griffin instead, as he's been pretty disappointing to me thus far (though I can't really understand why). Necrobite's the other card I'd love to have in here, but I'm not sure what it replaces.


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Zenbitz
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Most of our spells are cheap. 11/6 add juggernaut I think is fine (but greedy) There is a pretty Nasty tension between the angel and flesh to dust. I don't think it's possible to make a mana base that's supports both. If you want to play flesh to dust before like turn 9 (on average) you need 9-10 sources

I would love to play a few dozen games (or maybe simulate a few 1000) to learn whether it's better to
A) be greedy
B) cut flesh to dust (maybe play necrobite+stain the mind)
C) cut avacyn (really this deck is good enough)
D) run 19-20 lands. (I would guess this is good if we had more black early creatures)

I would not be surprised if any of these was best.

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