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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:10 am 
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I gave Bahraz a free repeatable board wipe because it only hits smaller creatures and he costs 6 mana anyway. If Bahraz's power level becomes an issue, it's easy to tweak how powerful the board wipe is by increasing or decreasing his starting loyalty. The main thing I'm shooting for is the mechanical flavor.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:16 am 
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How is killing all cmc 4 or less into cmc 6 or less EVERY TURN AFTER THE FIRST "hitting small creatures"?
There's a reason why I said it should be a -3 ability.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:38 pm 
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Whether or not the card is overpowered can be discussed later - at the moment, we should be voting on which character should be included in the set. CKY was right to design for flavor first - we can fix the numbers and change abilities after we know the character is actually going to be chosen.

@TP: I'm glad you liked that card, and the character! It's pleasing that your concerns are mostly mechanical - that's really the part I'm not so good at.

Also, your post seems to have cut off for some reason? Maybe? O_o

As for my vote... I need more time to think about it. There are a lot of interesting possibilities, but also a few rather damning flavor problems with a few of them. Hm hm hm. Maybe it's just hard for me to choose because of the context. Aloise is going to be interacting with whoever wins the vote, after all.

Yeah, I need a little more time. Probably later today, maybe.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:52 pm 
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@Ruwin- I totally agree that we should have nailed down our character first, then designed the card, but I guess it's too late now.
Ah, my internet has returned! I finished typing up everything I wanted to say but was unable to submit it yesterday. Only my paranoia* allowed you all to see the first half of my post. Now here's the rest.


*courtesy Wizards Of The Cost

Echo-
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storyteller-
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Tevish-
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Mown-
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Me -
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CKY, Mown and Tevish are warring for my vote currently.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:29 pm 
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Under Echo: Best character award goes to Cato! Please report to the M:EM immediately.

Doesn't M:EM already have the planeswalker-meets-eventual-walker with Jinsen and Kimberly?
Well, technically their meeting ignited Kimberly's planeswalker's spark, but hey.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:31 pm 
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Lots of interesting cards, though I'm leaning towards CKY or Mown. I found their cards to be the most interesting from both a flavor and mechanics standpoint, which is about all we can hope for when it comes to planeswalkers.

I kind of agree that with walkers it is probably a better process to vote on a character/concept then submit and vote on abilities for said walker. Might end up a bit Frankenstein's monster-ish but the voting should make it work. Probably a bit too late at this point, unless people want to start the whole thing over again (probably not). Anyway, food for thought for the next set in the block. Assuming this is a block and not simply a stand alone set (I can't seem to recall which it is).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:06 pm 
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@storyteller- Oops!
Fixed it.
Never happened. What are you talking about?

I vote CKY. I'm already thinking of all the ways the character links up with our established flavour. Still think it needs tweaking for power level, but that's easy enough to fix. THe basic mechanics and flavour are what's really on trial here.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:36 pm 
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Doesn't M:EM already have the planeswalker-meets-eventual-walker with Jinsen and Kimberly?
Well, technically their meeting ignited Kimberly's planeswalker's spark, but hey.


I mean, just because something has been done doesn't mean it can't be done again. It would be pretty hamfisted, I admit, to replicate exactly the circumstances of Jinsen and Kimberley's meeting (and even moreso to replicate exactly Kimberley's ascension.)

Jinsen and Kimberley meeting (or more specifically, Jinsen killing her dad) was in direct consequence to a series of coincidental circumstances that would be difficult to replicate in any narrative manner without stealing the idea directly. As long as no one does that, I don't really see a problem with 'walkers meeting other 'walkers that have not yet ascended.

All that being said, I vote for CKY. I'm curious to see how Aloise handles megalomaniacal delusion.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 12:14 pm 
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I'll sift through these at some point, hopefully. But to answer
@TP: With his ultimate, I mean that you can cast a number of instant and sorceries equal to his loyalty when the ability fired off, using Last Known Information. So if you pop him off instantly, you get to play three instants and/or sorceries. I considered CMC to tone it down, because he's fairly powerful, but I'm not entirely sure.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 5:58 pm 
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His methods makes him black, I guess?
He kills, steals, and threatens people into giving him what he wants, even though what he usually wants is objectively good.

I can never seem to come up with a decent ultimate.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 11:51 pm 
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Mown wrote:
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Erm, Mown, explain?

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[+1]: Tap up to one target creature. That creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap phase and its controller loses 1 life.
[-3]: Until end of turn, creatures you control gains deathtouch and has "Whenever an opponent loses life, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature."
[-9]: Your opponents' life totals becomes 1.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:16 am 
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I swear I read that as life gain every single time while commenting, despite expecting it to be life loss from reading the card earlier.
Also I see now that the ultimate sort of applies to everyone, but it's supposed to be "Each opponent", so I put the blame on you for that one.

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Okay, so, votes, sort of:
My favorite planeswalker concept is TPW.
The one that intrigues me most in how it interacts with the story is CKY.
The best card is... Actually, screw you guys, I have the best card.
If I would vote for overall package, then it's between TPW, Confused and CKY probably. Leaning towards TPW.

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I vote for CKY.

By my count, that's 4 votes for CKY, and 1 vote for TPzombieW.

So CKY takes it! Bahraz the Tyrant shall be added to the spoiler.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 10:52 pm 
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Not sure how I beat out Mown for second there. I guess that makes me a design god? Suck it YMTC! I own you!
Anyhow, I already have lots of ideas about CKY's walker fitting into the storyline. Really liking Bahraz.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:42 am 
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Excellent. You will be rewarded for your fidelity, mortal servant, in Bahraz's moment of triumph.

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It's going to be very interesting to see Aloise and Bahraz interact...

I'm definitely into this.

I should probably go through these characters at some point and make suggestions as to which ones might be worth porting elsewhere in M:EM...


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