Just a suggestion when you guys are less busy.

well it would be nice if you included more than 1 line in the OP

because no one knows what you think is trolling and BS

because you didn't provide any examples or talking points

The report button exists, just saying. If someone's behaving destructively, the mods have proven that they will take action.

Yes, please. I can't seem to have a decent discussion on these boards without several posters trolling/baiting/flaming me every time I post.

You could try starting with opening topics with more than just a link to FOX.

What do you consider "trolling and bs"?

if you made sense people would probably take you more seriously

Regardless of posts like that, it is the duty of a skeptic and truth-seeker to give consideration to all scientific possibilities. As Carl Sagan said about Immanuel Velikovsky's theory about Venus being a comet (somehow spat out of Jupiter), it's not a bad thing that the theory was ridiculous, it was that people tried to suppress it without due consideration. At the end of the day, Immanuel Velikovsky is still wrong, but the response to his theories was not the proper way to do science.

Lokiare may be writing and referencing articles that are frighteningly innaccurate (such as Fox news), and then blowing those out of proportion based on shoddy science, but we should not and will not respond by banning or reporting him for doing exactly what the off-topic forums are about. Hopefully, one day, after we've pointed out the consistent failures in logic, he may realize that it's more likely his limited sources are at fault, rather than the rest of us. There is even the incredibly off-chance possibility that we will learn something from him too.

I'm not carl sagan so I will settle for ignoring him

from what ive seen lokiare just ignores any contrary opinion but maybe i havent been paying enough attention

No, you've been paying perfect attention.

This is an incredibly naive and privileged position coming from someone (a straight, white male) with nothing to lose if certain ideas are allowed to proliferate. Most mainstream theorists have accepted since the mid-20th century that science cannot be apolitical, as Sagan implicitly is suggesting here, and in fact is a major actor in the creation of power discourses.

Not that it's an issue. Fire's already made it clear that some ideas are covered under the CoC's hate speech clause.

Unfortunately, endangering millions by spreading false fearmongering nonsense about vaccinations probably doesn't go under that clause, despite it demonstrating a hatred of humanity... Oh well.

But if you simply ban people because they bring up wrong things, you set yourself up for banning when you yourself are also one day wrong. The hope is that when someone like Lokiare brings up things that are wrong, and discussion happens, that some people learn something. In order to prove Lokiare wrong, I've had to increase my understanding of a number of issues, and hopefully other people that are discussing things with him are also learning from the practice. So long as we're making sound and logical arguments against, we will increase the likelihood that someone that agrees with Lokiare will discover the truth. In fact, I would believe that people are are "on the fence" on issues will lean towards the correct facts, and easily see through the vague and false references he brings up.

lokiare is exactly like the TIME CUBE guy

he's wants someone to "prove him wrong" but he's the sole person in charge of declaring when that happens and he will never accept that he is wrong

so there is literally no reason to argue with him

it goes absolutely nowhere and never will

Its best to just disregard his existence tbh.

ko has the right idea and put him on his ignore list but i dont know if i can do that because lokiare is so hilarious

This.

Finally someone who understand critical thinking...

I base all my conclusions on facts presented. I don't just trust people. I think that's the major difference between most posters and me. for example:

it is taught in school that atoms are one of the smallest building blocks of the universe.

most people just accept that and move on. I on the other hand delve into the research and see what experiments have been done to prove it. after I receive enough facts I agreed wit the conclusion.

Now some of you have been taught that things like vaccines are completely safe. You never looked into it beyond that and ridicule anyone that has. I wouldn't exactly call that critical thinking.

once I started looking into the vaccine issue myself, I spotted a number of inconsistencies and facts that opposed the idea that they are always safe

One of the major hurdles to get over is the fact that people just can't grok the idea that greedy and lying politicians and business owners would ever tell them a lie or put them in danger....

schools in the states must really suck if all you learned about atoms was that they "are one of the smallest building blocks of the universe" and then moved on