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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:58 pm 
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Sure, but I wouldn't agree that the way you interacted with them was in a very red way.
However, I do think the focus on small magic could be interesting.

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-1: Search your library for a nonland card with converted mana cost of 2 or less and add it to your hand. Then, discard a card at random.
-6: Reveal the top card of your library. If it's a card with converted mana cost 2 or less, exile it and you may repeat this process. You may cast spells exiled this way without paying their mana costs.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:00 pm 
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Moving away from 'walkers for a moment - since 'walkers already get to shine in our stories - how about a cycle of legendary creatures based on non-walkers?

I'm thinking a cycle of mono-colored creatures all with an ability that activates off of mana from an ally color - similar to the uncommon cycles in m14 and m15.

I bring this up because we already have a card designed for a certain Miss Jackie that fits this criteria. My suggestions for legendary creatures based on M:EM non-walkers are as follows:

Astria Trevanei - Blue, with a White active.
Jackie DeCoeur - Red, with a Black active.
Kyara Vale - Black with a Blue active.
Motta - Green with a Red active.
??? - White with a Green active.

Normally I'd provide links to the appropriate works but I'm on my phone, and so cannot. Let me know what you think of this idea, though. Still need to fill that last spot. O_o


I like that idea. Just don't forget Aloise's mechanized flamingo monster for the artifact slot. He's clearly the Wurmcoil Engine to this cycle of Titans. :)

EDIT: I don't know if she'd actually fit in those colors, and I would be kind of sad to lose her Mrs.-Columbo-style, off-screen presence, but what about Lys in White w/Green active? Because I'm a big fan of Lys.

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I miiiiight have an oncoming option for white with a green activated ability, though white with a blue ability would probably fit better with the character, the cycle is spun the other direction. I'll have to think about it.

Off one of Ruwin's suggestions, here are a couple different designs since I don't know which would mesh better

Kyara the Compleat

Legendary Creature - Praetor*
Intimidate
:2::u:: Draw a Card
The right hand of Shandrovol's Father of Machines, Kyara whispers of glories beyond even his sight, caring not that Phyrexia's touch would destroy what she and her brother had once loved about each one.
5/4

Kyara the Compleat

Legendary Creature - Praetor*
Deathtouch
:1::u:: Kyara the Compleat can't be blocked this turn
Kyara Vale was always moved by the needs of ordinary people. Once, she thought they needed peace, freedom, and prosperity. Now she knows they need phyresis or death
3/4

Kyara the Compleat

Legendary Creature - Praetor*
Protection from Planeswalkers
:3::u:, :t:: Return target permanent to its owner's hand. That player discards a card.
Her brother gave her insight into the multiverse. Phyrexia gave her terrible new uses to put that insight to.
4/4

*Alternativley, "Legendary Creature - Horror" if we don't feel the Praetor type is fitting for a compleated individual

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:15 pm 
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1st design seems too strong. Then again, it doesn't have protection. Still.
2nd design makes no sense. Unblockable and deathtouch makes for quite the nonbo.
3rd seems ok...ish? Though not fond of pro-PWs, I doubt it matters.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:26 pm 
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Cybernetic War Flamingo - [M]

Artifact Creature - Bird Horror
Flying, Deathtouch, Lifelink

Whenever ~ attacks, unless you control an Aloise planeswalker, lose 12 life.

When ~ dies, put 6 1/1 colorless Cybernetic Bird creature tokens with flying, deathtouch and lifelink onto the battlefield.

6/6

"Now, really, is that any way to treat our guests?" -Aloise the Exasperated

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As for Lys, I honestly want someone else's character in the last slot, but since you got me thinking...

Lys, Enlightened Matron - [R]

Legendary Creature - Human Cleric

: Target creature gains protection from the color of your choice until the end of the turn.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:30 pm 
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@Tevish: I like the first one! I wasn't sure if you thought Kyara was capable of splashing a bit of blue, but I'm glad you did. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:32 pm 
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Now I am really tempted to try to do a design for Aloise the Exasperated. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:33 pm 
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However, I do think the focus on small magic could be interesting.


It should probably be noted that my mention of small magic was a reference to this: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=2311

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“Because,” Astria said, “this is the sort of thing you've always had a knack for. Runes. Wards. Seals. Small magic.” She stood up and turned, waving a hand in the direction of the tonics and potions lining the walls of the store. “Little, practical things. You can't control real magic, but you can put that sizzle of voltage into a phial of horse piss that makes a man's hair stand on end so that he thinks you cured him of baldness.”


I never can decide whether I love or hate Astria (though I'm confident it's the latter), but she has an amazing way with words.


As for the current conversation, could Opaq (from War of the Wheel) be the White legendary, with the green activated, or would that be off-color for his character? I'm unsure since, although is religious devotion and military strategy might put him in :w:, Skavlakur is :b::r::g:.

Edit: Lys probably fits the role better. Also, CYBERNETIC WAR FLAMINGO!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:36 pm 
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Oh, yeah, I've read all the stories under Beryl's page.
And I know what you meant. But I refuse to associate red specifically with enchantments.
And enchantments can be huge.
Wards and the like are also very much white.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:49 pm 
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Let me see...

Astria Trevanei, Revoker of Names

Legendary Creature - Astria

, : Put a pariah counter on target creature. Use this ability only if no creature currently has a pariah counter.

, : Gain control of target creature with a pariah counter on it.

If damage would be dealt to Astria Trevanei, Revoker of Names, redirect that damage to target creature with a pariah counter on it instead.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:54 pm 
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Oh, yeah, I've read all the stories under Beryl's page.
And I know what you meant. But I refuse to associate red specifically with enchantments.
And enchantments can be huge.
Wards and the like are also very much white.


The story where Beryl is at her "reddest" isn't on the Wiki page yet, sadly. If anyone is interested, it's here: http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=4380

Here's the section where we see her use her destructive spells:

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My Internet is still not working. Making cards from my phone is such a pain. Anyway, here's Motta!

Motta, Last of the Lokrah

Legendary Creature - Ogre Shaman

When ~ enters the battlefield, return a permanent from your graveyard to your hand.

: Return a Red Sorcery from your graveyard to your hand.

4/4

Hmm. I will keep their memory. Forever burning, in my heart.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:13 pm 
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@Astria: It's flavorful, but... complex. Astria is an accomplished mage, yes? How about this - bump up her power and toughness (say, 3/2), then, remove the tap on her first ability and change the text to: "Put a Pariah counter on target creature. Then, if that creature has 3 or more Pariah counters, gain control of that creature for as long as you control ~."

Then, the last ability could be changed to "Astria has hexproof as long as you control a creature you do not own."

So, 6WWW to mind control stuff. It makes her this sort of more interesting, less permanent memnarch. What do you think about that?

EDIT: Also, a Humble effect would be spot on for Astria. Food for thought.

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@Moonbeam: Personally, I see Opaq's devotion to Kahr and the religion he represents as being grounded in , his emotional connection and fanatical devotion, and a bit to 's concept of masters and servants, like thrulls, for instance. While I won't go as far as saying there is no in him, I personally seem him as more .


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:02 pm 
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I was under the impression Astria was also a fire mage.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:09 pm 
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I was under the impression Astria was also a fire mage.

Orcish should be able to clarify. I know we see her manipulating fire as a child in the flashback of "Small Magic", and she does react to Beryl's surprise appearance in "Reclamation" with a bolt of fire, but otherwise, we have not seen a great deal of Astria's magic.


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I was under the impression Astria was also a fire mage.

Orcish should be able to clarify. I know we see her manipulating fire as a child in the flashback of "Small Magic", and she does react to Beryl's surprise appearance in "Reclamation" with a bolt of fire, but otherwise, we have not seen a great deal of Astria's magic.

Raven's summary is correct. She does indeed have some fire magic in her repertoire, but - to paraphrase Professor Plum in Clue - she doesn't really practice it. She is not the get-your-hands-dirty type - she has other people to do her nasty work for her. So she doesn't really use her fire magic much at all. In my mind, at least, her day-to-day life is defined by political manipulation and slavish attention to the social order, and the spells which help her to achieve those aims. So I think of her mainly as , with and splashes.

I could see an argument for her as Grixis, but I'm not totally sold on the component. It doesn''t match her spellcasting and, without going into too much detail about events which haven't yet transpired, her motives are slightly different from what that would imply.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:51 pm 
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It's just that when their mother keeps a red diamond, the planeswalker a fire mage, and the only instances of Astria's spellcasting being fire...
I more or less assumed that their entire bloodline was one of fire mages.

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It's just that when their mother keeps a red diamond, the planeswalker a fire mage, and the only instances of Astria's spellcasting being fire...
I more or less assumed that their entire bloodline was one of fire mages.

Yeah, I can't fault you your logic! :)


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It probably wouldn't hurt to see a story from Astria's viewpoint.
I would be very much interested in seeing the conversation between Fisco Vane and her.
Speaking of Fisco Vane, I like him very much from what little I've seen in Friends and Killers, so it looks like he'll be my next stop.

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