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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 2:24 am 
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So, as promised, a new thread for a different wing of Maral's vault, this time packed with legendary weapons! Though in fairness, some of them aren't necessarily magical in nature, but they have some history that, regardless, should prove interesting.

To begin... I'm going to be cheating. You see, I promised that these would be weapons, but the first one is actually... a shield.
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I like it! It helps fill out the history of the Amphiseum, which I certainly approve of, and tells a nice Faustian story on top of it. It makes me a little curious about Lilin and her golem and where the shield went from there, but then again, that's what a good prompt is meant to do!

Out of curiosity, which card were you auto-carding? It's not coming up on mine.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 4:48 am 
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I like it! It helps fill out the history of the Amphiseum, which I certainly approve of, and tells a nice Faustian story on top of it. It makes me a little curious about Lilin and her golem and where the shield went from there, but then again, that's what a good prompt is meant to do!

It is a good question, isn't it? Well, it'll be one of many that comes out of this iteration. I'm actually aiming for a much tighter canon with all of these artifacts since they don't have the burden of travel involved in their origins.
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Out of curiosity, which card were you auto-carding? It's not coming up on mine.

Should be fixed now.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 12:16 pm 
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Out of curiosity, which card were you auto-carding? It's not coming up on mine.

Should be fixed now.

Ahh, yeah, that's kind of what I figured, but I couldn't be sure!


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Not gonna lie, this definitely called to my mind the Ghost Gladiators from Adventure Time.

I like this. The tale does end abruptly but the base story is intriguing. It's cool to see the Amphiseum fleshed out more, particularly with some more devilry afoot beyond the machinations of the Dual-Walkers.

I dig the Throne of Bone reference too :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:32 am 
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Not gonna lie, this definitely called to my mind the Ghost Gladiators from Adventure Time.

I like this. The tale does end abruptly but the base story is intriguing. It's cool to see the Amphiseum fleshed out more, particularly with some more devilry afoot beyond the machinations of the Dual-Walkers.

I dig the Throne of Bone reference too :D

I dunno, I don't see an issue with these stories ending abruptly considering the format in which they are being told. I mean... They DON'T have an ending, or they come abruptly because something happens. It's the nature of the beast when it comes to legends.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:00 am 
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The other thing to note (and Barinellos, feel free to correct me if I'm misreading something) is that these come primarily from Maral rather than Raleris, and there is a somewhat less "scholarly" approach to them. I think Maral is less inclined to chase down the whole story than Raleris is, because it's not her focus. She cares, I suspect, more about the artifact itself than a complete view of its history.


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The other thing to note (and Barinellos, feel free to correct me if I'm misreading something) is that these come primarily from Maral rather than Raleris, and there is a somewhat less "scholarly" approach to them. I think Maral is less inclined to chase down the whole story than Raleris is, because it's not her focus. She cares, I suspect, more about the artifact itself than a complete view of its history.

Yeah, these are directly from Maral about things that she's found in her travels, rather than being pointed to by Raleris.

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Those are fair points. It's an odd sort of thing to navigate, though--not exactly typical.

I do like that there's a tangible difference between Raleris's and Maral's writing here.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:03 am 
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Next up, an actual weapon!

Maul of Cangrexo

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:40 pm 
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I like both of these so far!

RE: The Shield -

Demons, man. It's always the fine print where they get you. Like others mentioned, there are several interesting threads which could be teased out from this one.

It's funny, but the moment at the end actually made me think of Willy Wonka: "You stole Fizzy Lifting Drink! You lose! Good day, sir!"

Only, you know, if Charlie Bucket had then beaten Willy Wonka to death with his bare hands...

RE: The Maul -

I'm curious about whether the maul can smash up pretty much anything with super effectiveness, or whether it was something specific about walls or that wall in particular?

Also, I love Malal's little good-enough-for-government-work assessment at the end when she's slapping the golems together. Made me smile.

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I like the Maul, and I really like the history you are setting up with Kokkinos between this and the Winter Heart. I have a small degree of trepidation about how long Maral was on Kokkinos, just because the Maguvs were trained to be on the look-out for possible 'walkers, but if she kept a relatively low profile, it's not a problem. There are giants on the plane, so she was probably just able to fit in.

Also, Orcish's question about the maul's overall effectiveness makes me sort of want to see a story where Maral is testing out some of these artifacts...


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I like both of these so far!

RE: The Shield -

Demons, man. It's always the fine print where they get you. Like others mentioned, there are several interesting threads which could be teased out from this one.

It's funny, but the moment at the end actually made me think of Willy Wonka: "You stole Fizzy Lifting Drink! You lose! Good day, sir!"

Only, you know, if Charlie Bucket had then beaten Willy Wonka to death with his bare hands...

... I kind of want to see that now. Plus, you have to admit, the idea of an immortal zombie warrior beating a demon to death with his bare hands is one of the most METAL THINGS EVER.

One thing that I must say I a little disheartened that nobody picked up is the question of... WHERE exactly Maral learned the story. It's actually in the text if you look at it just right. Suddenly the two faces look like a vase.

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RE: The Maul -

I'm curious about whether the maul can smash up pretty much anything with super effectiveness, or whether it was something specific about walls or that wall in particular?

Also, I love Malal's little good-enough-for-government-work assessment at the end when she's slapping the golems together. Made me smile.
I like to think that the maul specifically pretty much always hits with "super effective" accuracy. That being said, I feel like the ability sort of has a disconnect with its origins, but then again, MAGIC SPIKED HAMMER and to a degree, we have no idea what Krios's armorer's brought to it either.

And yeah, the golems were a demonstration of Maral's capacity when she's in "good enough" mode. She's not much in the way of from the hip magic, but she is DAMNED impressive when given the time to work.

I like the Maul, and I really like the history you are setting up with Kokkinos between this and the Winter Heart. I have a small degree of trepidation about how long Maral was on Kokkinos, just because the Maguvs were trained to be on the look-out for possible 'walkers, but if she kept a relatively low profile, it's not a problem. There are giants on the plane, so she was probably just able to fit in.

You wouldn't think a giant could be stealthy, but Maral is a wascally wabbit.

I also am glad to have contributed to Kokkinos. I only feel a bit awkward because now the other planes of the wheel are a little light in comparison. And I kind of want you to play around in the history I've let out of the box.

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Barinellos wrote:
It's funny, but the moment at the end actually made me think of Willy Wonka: "You stole Fizzy Lifting Drink! You lose! Good day, sir!"

Only, you know, if Charlie Bucket had then beaten Willy Wonka to death with his bare hands...

... I kind of want to see that now. Plus, you have to admit, the idea of an immortal zombie warrior beating a demon to death with his bare hands is one of the most METAL THINGS EVER.

I just assume that one of the other objects in Malal's vault is an unreleased Dio LP titled Throne of Bone, and that this precise image is depicted on the album cover.

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Barinellos wrote:
It's funny, but the moment at the end actually made me think of Willy Wonka: "You stole Fizzy Lifting Drink! You lose! Good day, sir!"

Only, you know, if Charlie Bucket had then beaten Willy Wonka to death with his bare hands...

... I kind of want to see that now. Plus, you have to admit, the idea of an immortal zombie warrior beating a demon to death with his bare hands is one of the most METAL THINGS EVER.

I just assume that one of the other objects in Malal's vault is an unreleased Dio LP titled Throne of Bone, and that this precise image is depicted on the album cover.

Kind of implies some interesting things about an album going platinum in her vault, am I right?

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I also am glad to have contributed to Kokkinos. I only feel a bit awkward because now the other planes of the wheel are a little light in comparison. And I kind of want you to play around in the history I've let out of the box.

I'd love to, and some day I likely will. But for the foreseeable future, I'll be enraptured with War of the Wheel. This summer was supposed to help me get ahead, so that I would be nearly done by the time school started up again. Sadly, these things have not come to pass, and in fact I've gotten way behind. I'm trying to kick it into overdrive now to get back the buffer I've sort of squandered, but it's difficult for a number of reasons. Firstly, there's been a lot more to read around here recently (which is awesome, but a commitment of time to stay caught up) and I like to try to read and comment on as much as possible. Secondly, now that the strands of WotW are starting to come together, things are getting more complex as I go, meaning chapters are taking longer to write. Thirdly, I'm getting a little burned out with it. Don't get me wrong, I still love the story, and I'm really happy with the direction it's going and how it's coming together, and I don't think I'd do anything different. But it is getting me to a place where its eating up a lot of my creative drive.

Anyway, long story short, I won't be doing any history-defining, for the Wheel or anywhere else, until I'm done with WotW, unless that history directly impacts the story.


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For the record too, I hope you guys have been noting the fact that this iteration of FtV has been so far much more tied to the MEM canon.
The next one is the first deviation from that, but we aren't done with the references, and there are some... really significant ones coming up.

@ Raven: No, I totally get everything you mentioned. I've been taking the liberties your well placed preoccupation has given me, but that's at least partially because I wanted to help you get some of your material a little more breathing room without you having to do it.
The other is... well, I've manipulated, I mean....collaborated with everyone else, but you have the war of the wheel keeping you busy.

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For the record too, I hope you guys have been noting the fact that this iteration of FtV has been so far much more tied to the MEM canon.
The next one is the first deviation from that, but we aren't done with the references, and there are some... really significant ones coming up.

@ Raven: No, I totally get everything you mentioned. I've been taking the liberties your well placed preoccupation has given me, but that's at least partially because I wanted to help you get some of your material a little more breathing room without you having to do it.
The other is... well, I've manipulated, I mean....collaborated with everyone else, but you have the war of the wheel keeping you busy.

Yeah, I've thought A LOT over the last seventeen weeks or so about the farther-reaching implications of my decisions with War of the Wheel. Without meaning to, I've essentially locked ALL of my characters out of participating in the wider Expanded Multiverse, which is unfortunate, and was not my original intention. But at the time I first thought of War, there was NOTHING like it in the archives. We had nothing like a major event with a lot of players, at least some of which come from separate creators, in the same storyline. I mean, there was the Vasilias stuff, which is cool, but I wanted something bigger. Of course, since then, we've had the ever-expanding world of Beryl and her interactions, so we're starting to get more of that with Orcish, Ruwin and you.

But yeah, I appreciate you working with my planes and giving them a little more life. It's always cool to see.


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But at the time I first thought of War, there was NOTHING like it in the archives. We had nothing like a major event with a lot of players, at least some of which come from separate creators, in the same storyline.
Well... nothing publicly known at least. :incognito:
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I mean, there was the Vasilias stuff, which is cool, but I wanted something bigger. Of course, since then, we've had the ever-expanding world of Beryl and her interactions, so we're starting to get more of that with Orcish, Ruwin and you.

Which actually brings me to something that I worked out... last week, I think it was, but as the last surviving member of the conspirators of the Molcru/Vasilias epic, I've decided that... Molcru never fit. Beast wanted a Lich vs Lich fight, but his involvement was always strange.

Which brings me to the reason that I even bring it up here of all places, because Maral DOES make sense with the plot we'd constructed.
But I'm too busy to sink myself into that, and sadly, everyone else is already involved in other stuff.

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Which brings me to the reason that I even bring it up here of all places, because Maral DOES make sense with the plot we'd constructed.
But I'm too busy to sink myself into that, and sadly, everyone else is already involved in other stuff.

Well, to quote myself (in Magic: The Musical) "A Scheme is just a dream that the world doesn't share."
There will be time for that.

The project as a whole is, in my opinion, creating some amazing stuff right now, and some very intriguing and complex storylines. We've got the stuff on Jakkard, the stuff on Aliavelli, the stuff on Arbagoth and the Wheel, and the stuff with the Dominia Cabal. But eventually, these things will drop their final curtains, and we'll all need a new show. So if Maral fits what you're looking for, keep it in mind. It's never too soon to start setting up the footlights.


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