Nah...you should pity me since I've already gotten it for Steam as well...basically, I paid $10 to try it out for the week before I get it on my PC...
Maybe I'm wrong with my reasoning, but, it looked like he got a vote put on him for no reason. The only circle I know about is my own one, where if you vote for someone who's voting for you, your vote counts double (which is why I know that Alt was telling the truth about where he was).
I could be way off base here, but, there's not much actual info so far, so, assumptions are all I've got!

CANTO 1.5

The time was the beginning of the morning,
And up the sun was mounting with those stars
That with him were, what time the Love Divine
At first in motion set those beauteous things;
So were to me occasion of good hope,
The variegated skin of that wild beast,
The hour of time, and the delicious season;
But not so much, that did not give me fear
A lion’s aspect which appeared to me.
He seemed as if against me he were coming
With head uplifted, and with ravenous hunger,
So that it seemed the air was afraid of him;
And a she-wolf, that with all hungerings
Seemed to be laden in her meagreness,
And many folk has caused to live forlorn!

razorborne (3): NeoSilk
NeoSilk (2): Shockwave07, 15377
15377 (1.5): seTiny
Aaarrrgh (1.5): Hello World
altimis (1): altimis
Garren_Windspear (1): Aaarrrgh

razorborne is at MAJORITY MINUS FOUR

Canto 1 will end on July 13th at 12:52 AM EST (approx 40 hours from now).

Majority requires a vote of more than 50% of the living players. Currently, with 13 living players, 50% would be 6.5 votes. A vote of 7 is therefore enough to cause a lynch.

But I'm in the fifth circle; you're in the eighth circle.
You said you didn't know what your circle did.
My circle is the one where if you vote someone else who is voting you, your vote counts double.

I am horribly misinterpretting something here...

Sorry - not the circle I'm in, but my home one, which is #5 (where you are)

Going back through the thread to figure out how Altimis knew what the circle he's in ability was, since it is Neosilk's home circle I found where he stated his ability. I was thinking that if the fifth circle was Altimis's home circle as well then either Neosilk or Altimis would be Divine aligned. Unlikely two infernos have the same home circle.




But I came across this early in the thread.




I think Altimis is aligned with the Divine. Why else would killing Dante be a "obvious death sentence"? Unless I am wrong it would appear lynch Altimis might be beneficial.

that's a good point. I remember noticing that at the time but I wasn't sure which side was actually town so I let it slide. it's also possible though that he's Inferno but thought that Divine was the majority.

anyway, with deadline approaching, I'm gonna risk another self-vote and VOTE: NeoSilk. his reasoning is really weak, speculative, and outguess-y, and at this point there's not much better to go on.

Saying either is a death sentence for that player.
Given the lack of a Night, I'm under the impression there are vigilante roles on either side (probably Dante and Lucifer and there might be a comedy one?). As such, getting a clear picture of who's trying to kill who is just saying, "Hey other side, kill me."
In the situation in question, they were talking about Dante is all, thus the specific mention of Dante. Had they been talking about Lucifer, I would have asked the same thing.

Fifth circle isn't my home circle; just like the eighth circle (supposedly) isn't NeoSilk's home circle. I doubt we start in our home circles. I'm not to keen that NeoSilk is the best lynch, because I don't think he's Dante/Lucifer, but we have to start whittling down the numbers somewhere.
I'm going to sleep, but tonight I'll search for a better target than myself.

Unvote

Also, I'm going to be gone almost all of saturday, I'm going on a big hike so I'll have no internet access whatsoever. If you don't hear from me by Sunday, I'm probably lost and you guys should send somebody after me. K? Thx!

So...Razor...you think Tiny has a good point about Alt being divine, but you vote for me anyway? Oh, yeah, it's cause you're divine as well, right?

Right now, Razor and Alt are my main suspects, but again, I feel like getting a lynch is important to try and figure out something about this game. Not that I want to volunteer or anything

Alt - I'm lazy, and not looking for the post right now, but I did make mention much earlier about knowing that you were being honest about being in the 5th circle, after you re-voted on me, and that vote counted double. At that point, I don't think anyone had stated anything about what the 5th circle did. And, it is my home circle.

As of now, I'm planning on keeping my vote where it is, but, if people want to start a lynch wagon for Alt (and hey, he'll be lost in the woods anyway...) I'd happily jump on that bandwagon. Otherwise, my vote will either stay where it is, or move somewhere that tries to keep me alive (to be completely honest)

I said it was a good point. I didn't say it was compelling. alt made that statement, and it was suspicious. but there's perfectly acceptable explanations as well. whereas you're riding a vote based on the idea that the mod took a blatantly obvious ability that everyone would see immediately, made it scum due to obvious, heavy-handed flavor reasons, and rolled with it. that is such blatant outguessing the mod that it looks like strawgrasping. further, you're also assuming that I used this role ability that was obviously detrimental, even showcasing it by transferring my vote to seTiny. that makes no sense if I was aware of the ability before I did it. and considering everyone here knows that circles have abilities, which we don't know about unless it's our home circle, and the only other person who shares a circle with me has only voted for himself, it seems reasonable to guess that this isn't even a role ability of mine, but a circle ability that I didn't know about. considering that chain of reasoning, none of which is particularly hard or obtuse, your vote makes no sense and looks incredibly opportunistic. which is more compelling of a case than "alt said something that either alignment might have said but for different reasons."

also, for the record, I believe Zinger said that if no one is at their lynch threshold the day's a no-lynch, so you don't have to worry about moving your vote for survival. I didn't check the OP, but that's my memory.

I'm without internet for most of tomorrow and Sunday and I have an exam Monday,just FYI.

Not sold on alt, he felt too active to be mafia,I don't want to lynch one of the most active posters for something that looks like a poorly worded phrase,especially not alt, he got suspected/ignored multiple times just for poor wordings and unconvincing arguments in past games,right(I have no time to check now)?

I really want to know if I should move down or not,If I'm the only one that does so it could be a disservice to the town, since it would take two days to climb up and I would have removed half a vote from a town aligned player in the meantime, but if I was the only one to stay I would have broken the premise of my own plan and I would risk wasting a lynch tomorrow and passing that day defending myself instead of scumhunting, again.

@seTiny:Why didn't you switch your vote to alt after that accusation?

NeoSilk, up to this point you've been rather nonchalant. Now that people are pointing fingers, you took a drastic turn towards the aggressive side.

Obviously, you are defending yourself, but you've been defending yourself; why the aggressive turn now?

I agree with razor about the strawgrasping, but being second on the list I understand that that opinion is fairly moot. That said, it's still my opinion. As such, Vote: NeoSilk

@Hello World: I'd argue, if anything, move up because it's easier to move down.

Ladtly, it seems like it's the same few people posting, I'd like some more people to post. One thing I want to look at is who the last person to post was that triggered our 120 hour timer.

Not that I'm suspicious yet, but I'm curious to know.

[quote="[url=http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?p=162797#p162797]I really want to know if I should move down or not,If I'm the only one that does so it could be a disservice to the town, since it would take two days to climb up and I would have removed half a vote from a town aligned player in the meantime, but if I was the only one to stay I would have broken the premise of my own plan and I would risk wasting a lynch tomorrow and passing that day defending myself instead of scumhunting, again.[/quote]

I can tell you I don't plan on moving down. I haven't decided if I am going to move up or not. There are circles above that haven't been figured out/ explained yet. I'm also tempted to stay here and report on those that are in this circle.

[quote="[url=http://forum.nogoblinsallowed.com/viewtopic.php?p=162797#p162797]

@seTiny:Why didn't you switch your vote to alt after that accusation?[/quote]

Because I have plenty of time to vote. I wanted to see Altimis's response. And after the response I see that I misinterpreted it. I thought he was warning someone that killing Dante would be a death sentence.

Fix for above post:



I can tell you I don't plan on moving down. I haven't decided if I am going to move up or not. There are circles above that haven't been figured out/ explained yet. I'm also tempted to stay here and report on those that are in this circle.



Because I have plenty of time to vote. I wanted to see Altimis's response. And after the response I see that I misinterpreted it. I thought he was warning someone that killing Dante would be a death sentence.[/quote]

I'm actually getting more and more convinced that No Lynch would be better at this point. The reason is that we still don't know if there are any other kills than the lynch. If my original theory about Dante and/or Lucifer having kill powers turns out to be true, we could potentially have three death in a single Canto. It would be possible for all three of those victims to be Inferno, which would then completely mess up lynch voting for the rest of the game. I don't know if Dante and Lucifer know who is on their side, so I want us to move through to the next Canto to see what (if anything) they will do.

Do you really think I'm being aggressive? Cause I don't. I don't want to get lynched, of course, but, I don't feel like I'm being aggressive. I mean, I've had votes on me pretty much the whole game....
No lynch = No Info. We have less to go on than a normal mafia game, so....I don't see how no lynch helps us at all. It's just preventing us from getting any more info...

I am only suggesting no lynch for canto 1. As you said, we have very little info, and I think it is better to figure out the structure of the game before we start lynching people. Let's see if there are any other kills in a no lynch canto, then increase the complexity.

@altimis, you should probably move down actually, you claimed to know what the circles you stepped in did, and we already know what circle 4 does, and an extra player knowing what a circle does would be useful for stopping counterclaims/having redundancy if someone from that circle dies, plus that ability is not that strong, so forcing a mafia to shot something other than an investigative/protective role if they want to keep secret what one of the lower circles does would be sweet.

I don't think we really have time to make a lynch now, especially without the mafia influencing it.

I'll probably go down tomorrow, I should be able to get up again before is too late if nobody else moves down.

CANTO 1.6

She brought upon me so much heaviness,
With the affright that from her aspect came,
That I the hope relinquished of the height.
And as he is who willingly acquires,
And the time comes that causes him to lose,
Who weeps in all his thoughts and is despondent,
E’en such made me that beast withouten peace,
Which, coming on against me by degrees
Thrust me back thither where the sun is silent.
While I was rushing downward to the lowland,
Before mine eyes did one present himself,
Who seemed from long-continued silence hoarse.

razorborne (4): NeoSilk
NeoSilk (4): Shockwave07, 15377, razorborne, altimis
15377 (1.5): seTiny
Aaarrrgh (1.5): Hello World
Garren_Windspear (1): Aaarrrgh

razorborne and NeoSilk are both at MAJORITY MINUS THREE

Canto 1 will end on July 13th at 12:52 AM EST (approx 11 hours from now).

moral of the story, everyone stay out of the sixth circle.