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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:57 am 
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Is Force of Will not Force of Will anymore?


can we know for certain

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force of will is ineffective against fair decks because you are putting yourself at card disadvantage to deal with one of their spells which plays into their gameplan



Define "fair" deck.

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I think it means a deck that doesn't try to overextend itself with silly combos and crud. Or something?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:00 am 
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I think it means a deck that doesn't try to overextend itself with silly combos and crud. Or something?


So where does mono-red burn fall in regards too that?

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Those fancy dual lands of ages past, simply because I want the relevant colors for my EDH decks.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:20 pm 
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I disagree, I think FoW works best against those unfair decks that try to go all in asap. Delver doesn't really care about free counters, but forcing a Birthing Pod or Ad Nauseum can really wreck a combo player's whole game.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:52 pm 
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Last I checked FoW countered spells.

I haven't checked in a while but I think you have the wrong card


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:54 pm 
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I disagree, I think FoW works best against those unfair decks that try to go all in asap. Delver doesn't really care about free counters, but forcing a Birthing Pod or Ad Nauseum can really wreck a combo player's whole game.

I played against Caleb Durward the other day against his birthing pod deck. Burn doesn't beat a thragtusk with recurring nightmare in play.

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Shadowchu wrote:
Burn doesn't beat a thragtusk


That's all you really needed to say.


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tony3 wrote:
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Burn doesn't beat a thragtusk


That's all you really needed to say.

the difference was that I had outs until he recurred it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:38 pm 
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Bitches don't know bout my outs!


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Bitches don't know bout my outs!

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Bitches are notorious for their intelligence gathering.

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The card I want to see most reprinted is Thragtusk.

That's right, I said it. Thragtusk.

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Did thragtusk just rotate?


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Did thragtusk just rotate?

yes, and the world is a better place.

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Shadowchu wrote:
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Did thragtusk just rotate?

yes, and the world is a better place.

It really is. I can finally pick up a playset for under $20 :D
I love rotation, it lets me get the cards I want for the price I'm willing to pay.


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miss_bun wrote:
I disagree, I think FoW works best against those unfair decks that try to go all in asap. Delver doesn't really care about free counters, but forcing a Birthing Pod or Ad Nauseum can really wreck a combo player's whole game.

who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said anything to the contrary

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Bad Moon is a good call. Sadly, most of the rest of them would probably break Standard as it is now.

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purple shrimp wrote:
miss_bun wrote:
I disagree, I think FoW works best against those unfair decks that try to go all in asap. Delver doesn't really care about free counters, but forcing a Birthing Pod or Ad Nauseum can really wreck a combo player's whole game.

who are you disagreeing with? I don't think anyone said anything to the contrary


Lols, I thought he said effective, not ineffective. Or unfair instead of fair, I'm not sure. Either way, reading.


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Bad Moon is a good call. Sadly, most of the rest of them would probably break Standard as it is now.

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I don't think so. It'd be good to bring the focus of Magic back from RAAAAAAAGHHHH CREATURES BEAT FACE to some actual potent spellslinging.

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