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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:43 pm 
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I just wish the clip was only the jive-talk scene. There's only like 30 seconds of that video that is what I'm interested in.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:01 am 
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Airplane! is one of those movies which pioneered a style of filmmaking - in this case, the rapid-fire, blink-and-you-miss-it style of comedy - which has since become so entrenched in the larger culture that it's easy to forget how different it was when it first came out.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:47 am 
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Flay it alive!!!

Um, I mean, uh...say it in jive?

They're turkeys, ya dig?

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I feel like it's still pretty different if only because so few people attempt it in such a way that it actually, like, works. And really there's not that much out there that attempts it... I can think of a handful of shows (Harvey Birdman springs to mind) and movies (there are usually sections of Edgar Wright films like that--which can I just say that I'm still upset over him leaving Ant-Man? :( :( :( ) but most stuff is only kinda like it. Family Guy, for example, is missing something of the sheer mania of the thing.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:18 pm 
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I feel like it's still pretty different if only because so few people attempt it in such a way that it actually, like, works. And really there's not that much out there that attempts it... I can think of a handful of shows (Harvey Birdman springs to mind) and movies (there are usually sections of Edgar Wright films like that--which can I just say that I'm still upset over him leaving Ant-Man? :( :( :( ) but most stuff is only kinda like it. Family Guy, for example, is missing something of the sheer mania of the thing.


Yeah, that's definitely true. For something like Airplane! or Police Squad! (or, say, early Simpsons, for that matter) to work, the joke density has to be so high, and the jokes have to hit. And - just as critically - the show/movie can't spend a ton of time setting up the joke to try to make sure it hits. It just has to fire it at you and trust the material; and, if it doesn't work, just reload and fire again. That requires more humor judgment and timing than I think people realize. It's easy to copy the form but hard to copy the execution.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:48 pm 
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Well, I am back in The Land Of Robust Signals, which means that life as I know it will return to what passes for normalcy, and you'll all just have to readjust to putting up with the full measure of my shenanigans.

Some final scattered thoughts on life, the heart, poetry, death, and bowling below.

And, for the record, even though I was just barely gone, I missed you guys.

Life, the Heart, Poetry, Death, and Bowling

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:03 pm 
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I've always found the concept of people telling other people what poetry isn't to be absurd. I honestly believe that if people had told Whitman or Cummings that poetry shouldn't rhyme, they'd have disagreed, despite being pioneers in unrhymed poetry. I believe they wanted to expand what poetry is, not constrict it in another direction. And if your teacher circled the last four words, as I believe she must have if I read you right, than I believe she's completely wrong. Those last four words make that poem, and I think it's very good. Honestly.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:06 pm 
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I've always found the concept of people telling other people what poetry isn't to be absurd. I honestly believe that if people had told Whitman or Cummings that poetry shouldn't rhyme, they'd have disagreed, despite being pioneers in unrhymed poetry. I believe they wanted to expand what poetry is, not constrict it in another direction. And if your teacher circled the last four words, as I believe she must have if I read you right, than I believe she's completely wrong. Those last four words make that poem, and I think it's very good. Honestly.

I tend to agree with Samuel Taylor Coleridge that all the best poems tend to come from half lucid fever dreams and acid trips.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:16 pm 
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Barinellos wrote:
I've always found the concept of people telling other people what poetry isn't to be absurd. I honestly believe that if people had told Whitman or Cummings that poetry shouldn't rhyme, they'd have disagreed, despite being pioneers in unrhymed poetry. I believe they wanted to expand what poetry is, not constrict it in another direction. And if your teacher circled the last four words, as I believe she must have if I read you right, than I believe she's completely wrong. Those last four words make that poem, and I think it's very good. Honestly.

I tend to agree with Samuel Taylor Coleridge that all the best poems tend to come from half lucid fever dreams and acid trips.

Which is one of the reasons Bob Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" is such a great song.

I love Coleridge. He's one of my favorite poets, and not just for Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Have you ever read Christabel? Great poem. Pity he never completed it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:22 pm 
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Barinellos wrote:
I've always found the concept of people telling other people what poetry isn't to be absurd. I honestly believe that if people had told Whitman or Cummings that poetry shouldn't rhyme, they'd have disagreed, despite being pioneers in unrhymed poetry. I believe they wanted to expand what poetry is, not constrict it in another direction. And if your teacher circled the last four words, as I believe she must have if I read you right, than I believe she's completely wrong. Those last four words make that poem, and I think it's very good. Honestly.

I tend to agree with Samuel Taylor Coleridge that all the best poems tend to come from half lucid fever dreams and acid trips.

Which is one of the reasons Bob Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" is such a great song.

I love Coleridge. He's one of my favorite poets, and not just for Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Have you ever read Christabel? Great poem. Pity he never completed it.

I'm still disappointed Kubla Khan never came out the way he envisioned it.

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan / A swimming pool of acid did drop:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:23 pm 
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I've always found the concept of people telling other people what poetry isn't to be absurd. I honestly believe that if people had told Whitman or Cummings that poetry shouldn't rhyme, they'd have disagreed, despite being pioneers in unrhymed poetry. I believe they wanted to expand what poetry is, not constrict it in another direction. And if your teacher circled the last four words, as I believe she must have if I read you right, than I believe she's completely wrong. Those last four words make that poem, and I think it's very good. Honestly.


Yeah, she didn't care for the last four words. I did think they were fairly important, so it's nice to know that I wasn't just talking crazy talk.

(For the record, I disgraced the old man's memory by rolling a 60, or something close to that. This is why people typically don't bowl in their funeral shoes.)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:36 pm 
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Barinellos wrote:
Barinellos wrote:
I tend to agree with Samuel Taylor Coleridge that all the best poems tend to come from half lucid fever dreams and acid trips.

Which is one of the reasons Bob Dylan's "All Along the Watchtower" is such a great song.

I love Coleridge. He's one of my favorite poets, and not just for Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Have you ever read Christabel? Great poem. Pity he never completed it.

I'm still disappointed Kubla Khan never came out the way he envisioned it.

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan / A swimming pool of acid did drop:

I wrote a poem once that referenced that. It was one of my few poems that wasn't in strict meter, ironically.

"And the Kubla Khan that once could have existed,
Is lost to us now because change is resisted,"


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I have just learned that the little creature on Irresistible Prey is called a meepling.
Someone write me a story about a meepling.

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...where did you learn that? Also, I'll make sure to do that once I do my Orms-by-Gore story.

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...where did you learn that? Also, I'll make sure to do that once I do my Orms-by-Gore story.

Mark Rosewater's article that outlined the little stories that pop up out of Devign* for each set. The one for Rise of the Eldrazi had that card.
I think the article was called "uncommon developments" or something like that.

*That period between design and development.

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Also, I'll make sure to do that once I do my Orms-by-Gore story.

Looking forward to it... :plot:


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(also it says it's a meepling in the flavor text)


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Barinellos wrote:
I have just learned that the little creature on Irresistible Prey is called a meepling.
Someone write me a story about a meepling.

There once was a meepling in peril,
From a Baloth ferocious and feral,
It was hunted like bait,
But was saved from its fate,
By a scarred pyromancer named Beryl.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:59 am 
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@OL:

Honestly, those last three lines are the best part of the poem. If the rest was lost in a tragic accident it wouldn't matter quite so much compared to those lines and those last four words at the end.

@Raven:

Oh well done.


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@OL:

Honestly, those last three lines are the best part of the poem. If the rest was lost in a tragic accident it wouldn't matter quite so much compared to those lines and those last four words at the end.

@Raven:

Oh well done.

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