Oh wow it's been nine days since day three started? Why has no-one posted anything?!? Where's that random list of suspects I had.

Vote: Silly

Sorry, sorry. Again, been a little busy, and really under the weather. I have been sick for over a week now, and my wife is sick and needs to travel for work. No excuses, but a fuzzy head and a temperature really makes mafia hard to play. So, in short:

Vote: Silly

Because the quiet ones have turned out to be goblins mostly. It's terrible logic for a Day 3 vote, but I really don't have the time or energy to go back and read everything. I'm sorry.

~SE++

After last game, I don't think it's really bad logic to vote the inactive people - they are either goblins, or at best, are not helping town.

Feel better SE!

Vote Silly

I'll be super disappointed if they're a townie

Sigh.

May as well.

Vote: Silly

Well, I have sifted through day 2 and I have to admit fel is perhaps correct in his statement about Shock. I was under the impression that everyone was going for Shock and Freddeh due to how Shock acted (or didn't) in day 2.

And why is everyone piling onto Silly out of a sudden?

Because Silly isn't posting.

My vote stays where it is. Lynching Silly now is a terrible idea and you all know that, yet you're trying to do it anyway. We'll be doing exactly what Mafia wants us to do: make a lynch that will give us no information besides his alignment. He have no more reason to kill him than we have to kill Confused or Squinty or rstnme. And since a similar thing happened on day 2 before I claimed, and pushed by the same person, I'm starting to see a pattern here. 2 times in a row we had Neo pushing for an inactive player lynch when the heat was elsewhere. Just leaving this here, interpret as you wish.

I really hope Silly flips Mafia if things don't change and we end up lynching him. Otherwise, we'll be in a terrible shape.

You know, rereading Silly's posts, while I think it sucks he's not posting, I don't think he's a goblin.

Unvote: Silly

I suspect there is a reasonable-seeming poster that's actually posing as a goblin, actually. It could be CK or Neosilk. I also think squinty and Garren could lean goblin, but I think this might be colored by my experience by watching them roleplay, so I'm sitting on that a bit more.

Now this is just pure conjecture. Exactly why is lynching Silly a terrible idea? Is Silly our doctor? Are they contributing significant amounts of information to help us discover the identity of the goblins? If I'm missing something please tell me but from what I can see nothing they have done has exactly said 'I'm not a goblin' anymore than anyone else. Who would you say we lynch?



No offense meant but as far as an argument against a random killing goes pointing at other people and saying 'why not kill them' isn't exactly a stellar argument. Can you give me a reason to want to kill confused/Squinty or rstnme more than Silly? I see no reason to change my vote otherwise.

Killing Silly gives zero information beyond his alignment, a info we get no matter who we lynch. Pretty much everyone that is talking regularly is a better target for the lynch, since this gives us way more info. Me, you, anyone. Heck, I even gave you a reason to lynch me some posts ago. I don't even know why you're asking me who do I think we should lynch, since I already casted me vote. From my viewpoint, both C_K and Neo are better candidates, since they are my top suspects, but anyone talking is better than someone not talking. Let Mafia kill them, it's what they want anyway.



I can't, and that's exactly the point. The only reason people are giving to lynch Silly is because he isn't posting (which is a terrible reason by itself). But the truth is that neither Confused or Squinty or rstnme are contributing much to the conversation too. Why differentiate the treatment? Why Silly is better than any of them?

As a said, none of them are good targets for the lynch. No info kills are what Mafia wants, and that's why I'm looking at Neo, since he tried that twice now.

In all fairness I'm not really lynching Silly because they don't post that much (I'm pretty much just as guilty in that regard). I'm looking to lynch them because whenever they do say something it entirely non-nonsensical and has little or no real baring on anything that is currently occurring. It doesn't help that that's the exact same problem I had with Freedah before them. Maybe I'm wrong but I have a relatively short list of suspects and Silly just so happens to be at the top of it.

...incidentally your next on the list Fel old buddy. Come tomorrow I'm probably going to try and get the lynch train steaming in your direction. Just a friendly heads up.

I'll be outliving my own expectations if I survive the night anyway. As I said, I have no problem in losing my head, now or tomorrow. I just want a Town win, and killing Silly right now will do very little to develop this plan (unless, of course, he flips Mafia).

And Garren, if I'm dead by the start of day 4 as I'm expecting, when you see my Town Cop role (because that's what's going to happen, even though you have nothing aside from my word to believe that, unless you're a goblin), do me a big favor and start looking at my suspects, ok? I'm sure you'll find plenty of interesting things.

If you are dead tomorrow I give you my word that I shall look over you suspect list and incorporate it into my own. Although why are you so adamant your going to die tonight? If your suspicions are true and the mafia has a role-blocker wouldn't it be simpler to block your ability and kill *anyone* else? You are effectively a vanilla character at the minute.

Because I'm a vanilla character, yes, but I'm also making the role-blocker a vanilla character. I explained it better here:



Of course, it's nothing more than a suspicion. We can agree, though, that Mafia has a better reason to kill me than any other player in the game. Just imagine how bad it would be for them if we happen to lynch the role-blocker with me still alive.

While I get Fel's point about flipping Silly giving us now info other than his alignment.....Flipping one of the few posting players means tomorrow we'll be back at the same point only with even less information, as even less people are posting.

I mean it sucks but the guy is a stand in and he's posted what? Twice? 3 Times? All in one brief period? If it were anyone other than Silly, I would be behind Fel because everyone else it at least posting. But Silly walked in, posted, and left. If he comes back before his lynch, then I'll drop my vote. But otherwise removing a player who clearly isnt playing, before we get to a point that we absolutely need every vote during the day to win, doesnt seem like the worst play.

Just for the record: I think Silly is a girl, not a guy. Just because it's confusing to keep reading "him" and "her."

~SE++

AFAIK silly is a guy.

My problem with this is long term vs short term. We can't win the game right now - we need to figure out who the goblins are. Yes, if we lynch Silly today, we don't get any info now, but, we keep the active players in the game who we will get info from in the future. Keeping Silly in the game doesn't help us in the long run - yeah, if we lynch someone else, we get a bit of info now, but, if we wait until tomorrow (game tomorrow) then we'll have that much more information to go on. If we keep Silly around, and he keeps not posting, we really don't get anything out of it. From what I've seen, these games seem to go down to the wire, and, the more people talk now, the better our chances of finding out who's scum later.

Short term, yeah, lynching Silly (assuming he's town) doesn't help us find goblins, but it does get rid of someone who's not helping.
Long term, I think it helps. We'll get rid of the least active player, and leave people who are posting that we can get info from in the coming days.

That's my thoughts/reasoning on it. I still think it's the best move that we've got right now.

@Fel - some of CK's posts do seem a bit odd, but, I think I've figured out who he is now, and, if I'm correct, he's playing the game the same way he did the last one, and he was town then as well...

Out of curiosity, who C_K was last game?