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Author:  Flopfoot [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Abzan
I'm not sure what I was thinking with this deck. It combines small dudes, removal, and some bizarre top end choices

4 x Plains
4 x Swamp
4 x Forest
1 x Isolated Chapel
1 x Woodland Cemetery
1 x Sunpetal Grove
1 x Temple Garden
1 x Gateway Plaza
1 x Rupture Spire
3 x Foul Orchard
2 x Forsaken Sanctuary
1 x Tranquil Expanse

1 x Barrier of Bones
3 x Healer's Hawk
1 x Portcullis Vine
3 x Highland Game
1 x Thorn Lieutenant
4 x Elvish Rejuvenator

2 x Mind Rot
4 x Murder
1 x Slaughter the Strong
2 x Ravenous Chupacabra
1 x Settle the Wreckage
1 x Cleansing Nova

1 x Shalai, Voice of Plenty
1 x Tendershoot Dryad
4 x The Eldest Reborn
2 x Camaraderie
3 x Prodigious Growth
1 x Zetalpa, Primal Dawn
Author:  divinevert [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Without a full playset of duals, tricolor decks are suicide.
Author:  Flopfoot [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Why are people more concerned about the mana base than the prodigious growths
Author:  Turbo [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Flopfoot wrote:
Why are people more concerned about the mana base than the prodigious growths

Cover the basics, then talk about top end card choices? :)
Author:  divinevert [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Flopfoot wrote:
Why are people more concerned about the mana base than the prodigious growths

Because i'm trying to give constructive criticism and want you to understand that you were screwed before you put a single non nonland card in your deck.
Author:  Banedon [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
divinevert wrote:
Without a full playset of duals, tricolor decks are suicide.


... Jeskai control ... ?
Author:  Flopfoot [ Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
divinevert wrote:
Flopfoot wrote:
Why are people more concerned about the mana base than the prodigious growths

Because i'm trying to give constructive criticism and want you to understand that you were screwed before you put a single non nonland card in your deck.
Fair enough, but I don't think it's the most important reason why the deck is bad. If I had come up with the idea of "control deck with prodigious as finisher" before I had decided what colors the deck was, then the deck would have been doomed even before I decided to make it 3-color. By the way, I do have four "untapped duals" in there. I would like some evolving wilds too but I haven't cracked any in packs of RIX yet
Author:  Turbo [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Banedon wrote:
divinevert wrote:
Without a full playset of duals, tricolor decks are suicide.


... Jeskai control ... ?

That deck uses full playsets (4x4) of all currently available dual lands, and even then it feels sub-optimal. It will get better of course with next set shocklands.
Author:  Banedon [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Well Jeskai is Boros + Izzet and both are guilds that are in Guilds of Ravnica. Abzan would be Golgari + Selesnya and both are also guilds in Guilds of Ravnica. The mana should work, no?

This deck, however, I have no idea what it's trying to do and so can't comment.
Author:  divinevert [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Banedon wrote:
Well Jeskai is Boros + Izzet and both are guilds that are in Guilds of Ravnica. Abzan would be Golgari + Selesnya and both are also guilds in Guilds of Ravnica. The mana should work, no?

This deck, however, I have no idea what it's trying to do and so can't comment.


Dunno if you're being purposely dense or what.
Author:  Mowie666 [ Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
I'm having fun with Abzan control, only in mid-gold ranks at the moment but just started earlier this week. Assassin's Trophy and Dawn of Hope are overperforming as for the most part I don't care if they ramp as long as I can kill their experimental frenzy.

3 Treasure Map (XLN) 250
3 Karn, Scion of Urza (DAR) 1
2 Cast Down (DAR) 81
6 Swamp (RIX) 194
3 Seal Away (DAR) 31
5 Plains (RIX) 192
3 Assassin's Trophy (GRN) 152
5 Forest (RIX) 196
2 Settle the Wreckage (XLN) 34
2 Ixalan's Binding (XLN) 17
3 Vraska's Contempt (XLN) 129
2 Vraska, Golgari Queen (GRN) 213
2 Ritual of Soot (GRN) 84
2 The Eldest Reborn (DAR) 90
2 Cleansing Nova (M19) 9
1 Vraska, Relic Seeker (XLN) 232
2 Carnage Tyrant (XLN) 179
1 Detection Tower (M19) 249
3 Isolated Chapel (DAR) 241
2 Overgrown Tomb (GRN) 253
1 Sunpetal Grove (XLN) 257
2 Temple Garden (GRN) 258
1 Dawn of Hope (GRN) 8
1 Revitalize (M19) 35
1 Moment of Craving (RIX) 79
Author:  Flopfoot [ Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Abzan
Why are there four standard legal Vraskas atm
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