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That’s more of a reflection of people I know than anything else. But yes, I’m also feeling that pain. And it definitely impacted votes.

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About the two questions, and people wanting Trump to be a disaster. You have to consider something: if he doesn't end up doing a bunch of racist, misogynistic things, AND attempt to seriously damage the US Democracy... then... Democrats (and particularly their supporters) will have to deal with extreme cognitive dissonance. It's like finding out the world is in fact NOT flat.

I get why members of your family might feel that way... there's no downside for them: Trump won't screw up their country, they don't live here, so it's only the cognitive dissonance issue.

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EDIT: If the only/worst thing that happens as a result of Trump is more BLM protests, then the Trump supporters will definitely have been right. Those protests are extremely politically motivated, and based on highly dubious beliefs. It's funny how they disappeared for four years, as though there were no police shootings during Biden's presidency, and it will be extremely telling if they magically return the moment Trump is President again.


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Yup you really want the second, thats what we should all want, but, theres nothing in this campaing that do not indicate that Trump and his cult want things to be better for them not the whole country, and certainly not for all the people that voted him.

How aligned is senate with the Trump cult?

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I would say the Senate is very aligned with the Trump cult - to the point of being controlled by it, almost entirely.

The question in response to your first point: will better for them, also be better for the majority of Americans, including blacks, latinos, women, LGBTQ, etc.?

Importantly, it would need to be better without disadvantaging certain groups in a very unfair, or disproportionate way. Some things will definitely hurt those groups, because I fully expect some of the DEI/Affirmative Action-type advantages to go away (perhaps even be made illegal), but that's not really the same thing as it's a removal of an unfair advantage rather than the creation of a disadvantage.


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So Timh can say goodbye to that promotion.
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PS: Nothing that I have seen indicates that this would be good for mayorities over there me thinks. At least not in a meaningful way.

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So Timh can say goodbye to that promotion.
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PS: Nothing that I have seen indicates that this would be good for mayorities over there me thinks. At least not in a meaningful way.


The majority over here is white. I'm not worried about the majority at all. I'm sure Trump will be good for them (meaning us).

The question is simple: is good for the majority also going to be good for the minority (at the same time)?


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Dunno but maybe races is not the only metric to go by, things like education levels, income, age, gender, health, could be better metrics.

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On thé economic front, this article was pretty good and much more readable than our technical stuff

https://www.benefitscanada.com/canadian ... investors/

It gets into tariffs and the big threat to Canadas economy.
It also dances on trump’s potential influence and skirmishes with the Fed but it reminds us that congress has to approve significant changes that trump
Might try and pull, so that’s good


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Dunno but maybe races is not the only metric to go by, things like education levels, income, age, gender, health, could be better metrics.


I was just making examples. I would be equally concerned if he created policies that directly hurt 1-30 years olds disproportionately. The examples were much more likely to be relevant to Trump, but I'd be concerned about any major, definable group in the US.

But it should also be clear that this should be an on-balance evaluation. Presidents should be concerned about the average American, and how they do. I'm not going to fault him - too much - if the things he does hurt some people while helping most people. UNLESS the reasons are obviously deplorable.


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Speaking of tariffs one company has already made plans to slash China-made products by 40% to 45%, by exploring a move to "countries like Cambodia, Vietnam, Mexico, Brazil." and not the US.

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/07/steve-madden-china-tariffs-donald-trump


EDIT: It looks like they may have actually learned from the 1st time around because his new Chief of staff put in conditions for the job such as limiting whose allowed into the oval office, which i'm guessing really means who has access to Trump.

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Some odds makers are already rolling out odds for '28

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oddsmakers-c ... 53845.html

New York Jets Quarterback Aaron Rodgers and actor-slash-wrestler Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson are among the favorites to clinch the presidency in 2028, according to Bookies.com.

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I’d love to watch a debate where Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson finish his opponent with the People's Elbow!!!

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We have not quite gone full Idiocracy yet… why not?


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I’m honestly a fan of Dwayne Johnson (not from wrestling tho) and would vote for him. I mean Reagan and Arnold went from Hollywood to politics and it was basically fine. I mean **** were coming off a weekend at bernie’s pres and at least Dwayne can speak in coherent sentences.. I don’t even care what his policies would be so long as he keeps dazzling me with his charming personality :cloud9:

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I think it’s going to be reality tv stars, skipping actors, so probably the Democrats will run Bruce Jenner. I feel like that’s the perfect candidate to run next after Harris, imo.


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I wish Arnold could run :(


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Boy I hope Wuster posts another 11 hour race video to break this up

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I'm not sure either. I made it up but it seems to have semantic substance and I've been called a poet in some circles so I say that to prove otherwise.

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He’d terminate inflation. Like a commando he’d attack the issue of border security. He’s a genius with total recall; it’s like we’re twins honestly. He doesn’t treat those without college degrees as expendables, he’d hunt down good jobs for the working class like a predator. He’s not scared to fight for the American people - he’s not a running man or a wimpy kindergarten cop he’s the last mother****ing action hero and I’d be proud to call him My President <3

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Inb4 the Dems start tweeting about where he was born, or some other such nonsense.


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