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I’m sorry what was my take away supposed to be from “Also is very, very, very, very very hard to believe that a bullet did that wound” aside from the implication of false flag event?

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Oh, I assumed the person in the crowd that died was from the SS trying to put down the shooter. I didn’t know the shooter killed someone. That’s good to know


2 people died. A man in the stands behind Trump took it in the dome after it passed Trump, and the shooter took it in the dome from SS return fire

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I’m sorry what was my take away supposed to be from “Also is very, very, very, very very hard to believe that a bullet did that wound” aside from the implication of false flag event?

Dunno maybe that is hard for me. To believe it?

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Oh, I assumed the person in the crowd that died was from the SS trying to put down the shooter. I didn’t know the shooter killed someone. That’s good to know


2 people died. A man in the stands behind Trump took it in the dome after it passed Trump, and the shooter took it in the dome from SS return fire


Ah, thanks!. Yeah I knew the shooter was killed.

I wonder if the death of the Trump supporter (not labeling that in any way to diminish the loss of life) will have an effect on people wanting to stand behind him and literally in the line of fire

That bloody raised fist and flag pic is insane how perfectly juxtaposed it is. Going to be very powerful I think


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I’m sorry what was my take away supposed to be from “Also is very, very, very, very very hard to believe that a bullet did that wound” aside from the implication of false flag event?

Dunno maybe that is hard for me. To believe it?


What do you believe did it then?

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Ah, thanks!. Yeah I knew the shooter was killed.

I wonder if the death of the Trump supporter (not labeling that in any way to diminish the loss of life) will have an effect on people wanting to stand behind him and literally in the line of fire

That bloody raised fist and flag pic is insane how perfectly juxtaposed it is. Going to be very powerful I think


I dunno. It’s not the first time a political figure experienced an assassination attempt while speaking to a crowd and folks still want to be behind them at events. Maybe have a short term effect on peeps wanting to be behind Trump specifically tho ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ya that photo is unbelievable. The photographer has got to be high giving themselves for getting it

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I’m sorry what was my take away supposed to be from “Also is very, very, very, very very hard to believe that a bullet did that wound” aside from the implication of false flag event?

Dunno maybe that is hard for me. To believe it?


What do you believe did it then?

I'm waiting for more info like you should, I will have particular interest in anything related to the wound.

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Doug Mills, a New York Times photographer, appeared to capture an image of a bullet streaking past Donald Trump’s head, a former FBI agent said. He took the photo while documenting the rally that turned into an attempt on a former president’s life.

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That looks very horizontal IMO...

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I'm waiting for more info like you should, I will have particular interest in anything related to the wound.


I saw the video that informed me of: [gunshots], Trump immediately flinching and grabbing his ear, then going down under a pile of SS agents, then emerging with the ear he had grabbed bleeding profusely. There’s also a pic floating around of Trump under the pile of SS with blood streaming down his face from his ear. And there’s video of a Dr on scene who attempted to save the guy in the crowd who ate the bullet, talking about it.

I get the idea of waiting for the full set of facts to emerge, and on something like shooter’s motive it’s absolutely correct, but this isn’t that. There’s enough evidence around the ear wound to safely call it. I’d have to believe some goofy **** like Trump or SS ripped open the top of the same ear he grabbed after the gunshot for the photo opp to not believe it was the bullet

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It was said that he was hit by glass fragments from a teleprompter that was broken by the bullets.

But I guess no one knows for sure.

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That ear damage is nothing a small razor blade couldn’t do.

But yeah, there’s no way that wasn’t an attempted assassination.

I too am interested in motive. And BB, motive matters a lot, because if it was some liberal, Antifa, etc… vs. some lunatic right wing nut the result and politicization changes, dramatically.

And you can bet your ass this will be heavily politicized; it already is being politicized.

Edit: hit by glass would make a lot of sense, but I’d wait for confirmation from serious news sources to believe that narrative. There should have been no direct lines of sight to Trump, assuming SS did their job setting up the area. This would mean the shooter would not have been able to aim at the former president, and may have chosen to fire into the crowd, instead (hell, that may have been the plan in the first place, not talking conspiracy, but rather psychology). This is all 100% speculation; I’m just thinking out loud, if you will.


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I too am interested in motive. And BB, motive matters a lot, because if it was some liberal, Antifa, etc… vs. some lunatic right wing nut the result and politicization changes, dramatically.

We know at least that he was a registered Republican

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I too am interested in motive. And BB, motive matters a lot, because if it was some liberal, Antifa, etc… vs. some lunatic right wing nut the result and politicization changes, dramatically.

We know at least that he was a registered Republican


MANY liberals, including my own mother, registered as Republicans during the primaries to try and vote Trump out of his candidacy. That registration may not mean much, in other words.


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I can’t believe I got you guys to call the secret service the SS. Jess would kill me :(


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I see nothing shaterring in any vid.

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Gonna show A Quiet Place to Emily later on today. I think it should hit a lot harder than that softball Day One movie where you don’t really connect with or feel any of the deaths. The first death in Quiet Place is in the opening sequence and it’s the youngest son lol. Such a better movie. You immediately fear the crap out of those alien things.

Btw we saw a trailer for Romulus when we saw Day One, it looks incredible on the big screen. Very excited


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Jess would kill me :(


Doesn't matter in the bigger scheme of things

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Edit: hit by glass would make a lot of sense, but I’d wait for confirmation from serious news sources to believe that narrative. There should have been no direct lines of sight to Trump, assuming SS did their job setting up the area. This would mean the shooter would not have been able to aim at the former president, and may have chosen to fire into the crowd, instead (hell, that may have been the plan in the first place, not talking conspiracy, but rather psychology). This is all 100% speculation; I’m just thinking out loud, if you will.


So from what I've been reading it seems that the gunman was perched on an adjacent rooftop outside the perimeter. He used an "AR-style" rifle and CNN has the following:

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A local police officer saw the gunman just before he fired on a Donald Trump rally Saturday but was unable to engage him, Butler County Sheriff Michael T. Slupe said in an interview Sunday with The Washington Post.

Slupe told The Post that the officer was examining the area after there were requests from law enforcement to identify a suspicious person.

“So police responded to try to find the guy, searched the area, but couldn’t find him, so said, ‘Well, let’s try the roof,’” Slupe said.

Slupe said the officer pulled himself up enough to look on the roof and see the gunman, who also saw the officer and pointed his gun at the officer.

“He lets go because he doesn’t want to get killed,” Slupe said. The gunman then started firing.

CNN reported earlier that the shooter was spotted outside the event by local law enforcement, who thought he might’ve been acting suspiciously near the walk-through metal detectors, according to a senior law enforcement official. They put out a call over the radio to keep an eye on him, and that information was passed on to Secret Service, the source said.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/election-biden-trump-07-13-24/index.html

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I see nothing shaterring in any vid.


That would be easier to miss in the videos… and keep in mind it could be almost anything, so maybe not a teleprompter, but rather something else, or something less obvious. The point being, it could be a ricochet of some kind, easily.

We just don’t know enough, and maybe we never will.


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Sure but we can know lot of stuff from the wound.

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