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[SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
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Author:  Auunj [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:13 pm ]
Post subject:  [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
Hey guys, I've created an abzan "grind" deck. I wouldn't call it aristocrats, as I don't play Nantuko Husk and the games are a bit similar to origins golgari with lots of removal, some tutoring, a lot of draw and stalling till you peck the opponent to death. Any tips and comments appreciated, it probably needs some some optimization, but does quite well so far.

4 x Blisterpod
2 x Hanweir Militia Captain
3 x Carrier Thrall
3 x Duskwatch Recruiter
2 x Declaration in Stone
2 x Bygone Bishop
1 x Liliana, Heretical Healer
1 x Nissa, Vastwood Seer
3 x Scion Summoner
2 x Anguished Unmaking
4 x Angelic Purge
1 x Nissa, Voice of Zendikar
1 x Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet
2 x Smothering Abomination
2 x From Beyond
1 x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 x Ob Nixilis Reignited
1 x Sorin, Grim Nemesis

4 x Plains
4 x Swamp
4 x Forest
2 x Westvale Abbey
2 x Woodland Cemetery
2 x Isolated Chapel
2 x Sunpetal Grove
4 x Evolving Wilds


The small creatures are hard to wipe and replace themselves, you can rebuild quickly with the bishops and recruiters and for everything big, you have your removal. The only big threat would be Plated Crusher but so far I didn't have to face it :-)
Author:  robdachamp [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
I would try Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim in the deck. Seems like it would be really good
Author:  BounceBurnBuff [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:08 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
I second that. Not sure if Ob Nix/Sorin are really needed here. Try -1 Ob Nix, -1 Sorin, +2 Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim. Better synergy, lower curve.
Author:  Auunj [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
I did play Ayli, but cut him in the end. Sorin and Ob are great, act both as wincons and removal.

I might try cutting From Beyond for Ayli.
Author:  BounceBurnBuff [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
Wait, I didn't even see that, you were playing the 4 mana enchant just as a token generator? Yea...Ayli please.
Author:  Modulo [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
From Beyond is not just a token Generator, as it finds Smothering Abomination.
Seconding Ayli as well. Any thoughts about Vile Redeemer btw? Seems like he is good in a deck like this.
Author:  Auunj [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
You don't rely that much on Smothering Abomination in this deck, as you have Bygone Bishop.

I did want to try Vile Redeemer but:
1) I'm playing a lot of tokens
2) Requires Wastes or a token
Author:  Hello World [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
With so few eldrazi I feel that retreat to emeria might be better at making tokens than from beyond, it can provide a chump when you play it and you have some token generators to put the second mode to use.
Author:  Goblin Rabblemaster [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 7:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
How bout 2 Tireless Tracker and/or a 1 of Tamiyo's journal (now that's grinding) ? In a grindy deck like this, Tamiyo ends up getting whatever you need eventually. Together with Bishop it seems likely that you will often just get to Diabolic Tutor at opponent's endstep the turn after you drop journal.

My mardu walkers/grindcontrol deck uses the journal too as inevitability, but I generally fetch a rolling thunder or a chandra :p
Author:  legendofchiang [ Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: [SOI DECK] Abzan grind/control - more testing and tips appreciated
Needs more Evo Leap. All these creatures that want to get sacked, yet no purposeful way to do si.
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