Decks like this, but add Chandra back in. Edit: whoops she's already back in... Yeah so this one, but you can probably drop to 22 land, if there's even a card worth playing, possibly the sac dagger (although it's going to be best in 2/3 color decks), IMO. Edit2: damn, I didn't realize hellion is 5 cmc, scratch that, you need 23 land. Hmmmmm... (It's early, and I didn't sleep well, lol)

Does Twin Bolt with Embermaw Hellion on the field deal 3 or 4 damage if you point it at 1 target?

Still you will waste time casting her and trying to flip her, when you could be doing damage. She is extremely slow for pure RDW, don't matter how useful she can be.

Should be 4 I think. Not sure what happens if you target the same permanent twice though. Pretty sure still 4.

@Darkshock

Chandra is basially a free twin bolt every turn, that's pretty good for a 3-drop. This deck is so weak against instant removal, I'd feel much better with some standalone threats like this.

Doing damage instead with what exactly? Red doesn't have any cards with better damage potential in the pool. If she was getting picked over real cards like Flames of the Blood Hand or Scab-Clan Berserker you might have a point, but that simply isn't the case. Doing 5 garanteed damage after one turn on the board (and maybe something after that) is as good as it gets here.

RDW by Harmless Brew

20x Mountain

Creatures
4x Foundry Street Denizen
4x Goblin Arsonist
3x Goblin Glory Chaser
4x Mage-Ring Bully
4x Subterranean Scout
3x Ember Hauler
2x Abbot of Keral Keep
1x Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh
1x Avaricious Dragon

Spells
4x Titan's Strength
4x Twinbolt
4x Dragon Fodder
2x Exquisite Firecraft

I think the new red prowess creatures are going to be excellent with Titan's Strength and Dragon Fodder. I believe with the curve (15, 21, 3, 1), 20 land should be right. I'll need to test how adequate Chandra is as she may only end up being a 2/2 creature for 3 with how fast the deck is. She seems too good to miss out. I wonder if Mage-Ring Bully will be poor. Prowess triggers and Subterranean Scout seem like they could make it alright. Goblin Piker could be the better choice if the upside of prowess doesn't hold.

Well while we are doing RDW, here is where I am:

BESTEST RDW

19 x Mountain

4 x Fiery Impulse
4 x Foundry Street Denizen
4 x Goblin Arsonist
3 x Goblin Glory Chaser
2 x Molten Vortex
4 x Titan's Strength
2 x Abbot of Keral Keep
4 x Dragon Fodder
3 x Ember Hauler
4 x Subterranean Scout
4 x Infectious Bloodlust
2 x Exquisite Firecraft
1 x Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh


I may cut 1 or 2 subterranean for a firey conclusion or two. Running two molten vortex currently even though you would never want the second, so I am more likely to have it on the table.

You only have 19 lands, why would you want to play Molten Vortex at all? If you think drawing excess land is bad, try drawing Molten Vortex. Maybe it has a place somewhere, but you have to realize that the first "Shock" just cost you two mana and two cards.

With 16 enablers for Bully, you should be fine. It's a pity 6 of them are sorceries, but what can you do? I think you're pretty close to where RDW wants to be in this pool, so if Chandra doesn't work out then maybe cut her for another Mountain so you can play creatures and casts spells while making Avaricious Dragon a bit easier to cast.

I hadn't really considered the prowess creatures. This looks really good to me too. Note: you can render Chandra unblockable with subterranean scout. That should be enough to flip her on the turn after she is played in a lot of situations, in case you didn't know. I mean, it won't happen often or anything, but it's definitely viable, and it's in the deck.

I am curious why no one is running at least a singleton of Foundry of the Consuls. It's a five mana spell, but, mono-decks can afford it with their manabase. It's great for recovering against Languish and helps add evasion to otherwise ground-base game. I think Foundry of the Consuls will really help close out games that are already lost because the opponent put down a large wall or a bunch of small blockers. At worst, it's better than an additional mountain in top decking mode, and at best it's a 5 mana instant speed finisher when you run out of cards in hand.

Yeah an extra mountain could be right here. I like the idea of playing Chandra into Scout, swinging with Chandra and then casting a spell to untap her to ping for one and flip her. She could do some work but not sure if she or the game will last long enough to go off.

You could also ping with Chandra, cast scout and then attack ;-)

My thought behind it is that it turns excess lands into something usefull. Adds another way to finish off weekend opponents or remove creatures, something that versatile is hard to find currently in the meta.

It has been really helpful so far and I don't know what I would rather have. I originally only ran one but it has been helpful or I felt it would have been helpful when I didn't have it, several times. I actually started with one and felt I wanted to have more potential of drawing one in more games. What would you feel you would rather have?



I don't because personally, I never want to have 5 mana. 3 is all I ever want.

In a 19 land deck, you rarely need more than 3 lands. Molten Vortex lets you do something with that 1/4th of your deck that is dead weight.

Exactly what he said^

In my opinion you are increasing the dead weight by choosing that card. One copy may be right in some lists, I'd have to test it out, but the second copy does nothing.

Except for increase your odds of drawing one copy in an increased number of games.

From playing I feel the versatility the card offers is really helpful. This years game isn't very versatile. There aren't loads of cards that read "Target creature or player". And the ability to dump my extra mana into it means my opponents clock is shortened by that much more. Aggro's weakness is pushing through that last little damage. This card greatly helps do so.

Doesn't work, the final thing she does has to be her tap effect. Make sure you don't mess that up when playing, you'll be sad face. :'(