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Author: | minddrifter [ Thu May 29, 2014 7:15 am ] |
Post subject: | Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
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Author: | Zarradan [ Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:50 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
I imagine with some tweaking this deck could be reasonably strong; can't test it until the Xbox release unfortunately. It's a combination of 3 subthemes that have moderate amount card overlap: Ramp/Graveyard/Life Gain Land 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Golgari Guildgate 5x Forest 4x Plains 3x Swamp Non-Creatures 2x Ulcerate 1x Treasured Find 4x Cultivate 1x Tribute to Hunger 1x Arrest 1x Sanguine Bond 3x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Planar Cleansing Creatures 4x Satyr Wayfinder 3x Wall of Omens 1x Elvish Visionary 2x Vizkopa Guildmage 4x Saruli Gatekeeper 1x Baneslayer Angel 1x Shadowborn Demon 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon The 12 gates slow the deck but make the Gatekeepers/Planar Cleansings far more reliable, the Satyr Wayfinders and Cultivates will at least help provide some flexible as to when you play the gates. Though not dependent on it, the deck contains a very resilient combo that substantially increases its likelihood of winning late game: Rescue from the Underworld + Vizkopa Guildmage + Saruli Gatekeeper/Pelakka Wurm Its feasibility is fairly high with the rune-scarred demons and wayfinders and there are relatively few ways of preventing it from "going off" |
Author: | YertleTheTurtle [ Tue Jul 15, 2014 1:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
This is my mostly for fun deck...
Premium Junk Rares
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Author: | Zarradan [ Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:33 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
This is my third iteration of this deck. Combines aspects of the B/W lifegain decks with the B/G Rescue from the Underworld decks. Main difference from the G/B decks is the addition of Saruli Gatekeepers and Vizkopa Guildmage at the cost of Spider Spawning, adding a couple of new synergies: Additional Synergies: Vizkopa Guildmage+ Nemesis of Mortals Also works well with the Arbor Colossus, Pelakka Wurms and Rune Scarred Demon. Vizkopa Guildmage+ Saruli Gatekeeper Requires 7 mana, but occured occasionally Seance acts primarily as a card advantage engine and a defence option, though late game offers a potential win condition Additional Combo: Rescue from the Underworld + Vizkopa Guildmage + Pelakka Wurm or Saruli Gatekeeper Rescue from the underworld targeting Vizkopa Guildmage and Pelakka Wurm/Saruli Gatekeeper facilitates multiple activations of Vizkopa Guildmage when they return during your upkeep. 2-3 activations were common, resulting in 14-21 lifeloss. I found this combo effective against most decks: removal can't be used to respond to rescue from the underworld because sacrificing is part of the cost. Seance + Vizkopa Guildmage activating its abilities on a big creature in play Seance + Pelakka Wurm or Saruli Gatekeeper with Vizkopa in play G/B/W Lifegain/Graveyard Land 23 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Golgari Guildgate 6x Forest 3x Plains 2x Swamp Spells 8 1x Treasured Find 3x Cultivate 2x Seance 2x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Planar Cleansing Creatures 26 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Elvish Visionary 3x Wall of Omens 2x Vizkopa Guildmage 4x Saruli Gatekeeper 1x Shadowborn Demon 2x Nemesis of Mortals 1x Arbor Colossus 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon |
Author: | Aranthys [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:45 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Just copying here a deck I found interesting on the official forums : Junk Reanimator (Premium) (By DJ0045) 24 Lands : 4x Golgari Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Forest 4x Plains 4x Swamp 21 creatures : 4x Lone Missionary 3x Wall of Omens 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Necromancer's Assistant 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon 1x Griselbrand 15 spells : 3x Treasured Find 3x Angelic Accord 2x Seance 3x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Doubling Season 2x Planar Cleansing The big selling point is that Doubling Season enhances 3x Angelic Accord and turns Seance into a very, very powerful reanimator (copy tokens are not exiled at the end of the turn) |
Author: | Gegliosch [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:12 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Aranthys wrote: Just copying here a deck I found interesting on the official forums : Junk Reanimator (Premium) (By DJ0045) 24 Lands : 4x Golgari Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Forest 4x Plains 4x Swamp 21 creatures : 4x Lone Missionary 3x Wall of Omens 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Necromancer's Assistant 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon 1x Griselbrand 15 spells : 3x Treasured Find 3x Angelic Accord 2x Seance 3x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Doubling Season 2x Planar Cleansing The big selling point is that Doubling Season enhances 3x Angelic Accord and turns Seance into a very, very powerful reanimator (copy tokens are not exiled at the end of the turn) This deck is awesome. Hats off to DJ for the Doubling Season/Seance/Angelic Accord idea. Once any combination of these is on the board, the game is pretty much over. I still have a suggestion: +4 Saruli Gatekeepers, -3 Rescue from the Underworld, -1 1x Griselbrand The Saruli Gatekeepers are useful in every stage of the game. They help keeping you alive early on, they trigger your Angelic Accord and they boost your life through the roof, once Seance is in play. Once you get your enchantments down, it's still game over, but you have a much better chance to stall long enough for that to happen. Imo you don't need Griselbrand in this deck. He often sits in your hand if you draw him, has no EtB and isn't needed as a finisher anyway, because you'll just swarm the board lategame. Rescue from the Underworld is a good card for this deck, but the reanimation and angel production is already strong without it. I think you're better off with the Gatekeepers. They can really buy some time while Rescue even takes away a blocker for a turn. |
Author: | gdomi [ Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:59 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Junk Life Drain 5 Plains 4 Swamp 4 Forest 3 Golgari Guildgate 3 Selesnya Guildgate 2 Orzhov Guildgate 1 Radiant Fountain Creatures: 3 Wall of Omens 2 Mentor of the meek 2 Rhox Faithmender 4 Grazing Gladehart 3 Vizkopa Guildmage 1 Baneslayer Angel 1 Child of Night 2 Rune-Scarred Demon Non-Creatures: 3 Ulcerate 2 Reprisal 2 Tribute to Hunger 4 Cultivate 2 Hunter's Prowess 1 Planar Cleansing 2 Angelic Accord 2 Sanguine Bond 2 Elixir of Immortality Some Notes: Grazing Gladehart is very sinergic, two of them or a single with Rhox Faithmender can generate tokens with mana. Hunter's Prowess can provide a huge card advantage, best used with Baneslayer Angel Planar Cleansing is only here as last resort, it can be tutored. Win Conditions: 1) Life drain with Sanguine Bond or Vizkopa Guildmage. 2) Angel tokens. 3) Few Bombs. Baneslayer Angel and Rune-Scarred Demon. I won some games with this deck, and its fun to play. It needs some tweaks, can you guys help? Maybe add Pelakka Wurm? |
Author: | GobO_Kheldar [ Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:26 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Junk (White/Black/Green) |
bump for moving posts |
Author: | Zz Death Inc zZ [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:49 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Aranthys wrote: Just copying here a deck I found interesting on the official forums : Junk Reanimator (Premium) (By DJ0045) 24 Lands : 4x Golgari Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Forest 4x Plains 4x Swamp 21 creatures : 4x Lone Missionary 3x Wall of Omens 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Necromancer's Assistant 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon 1x Griselbrand 15 spells : 3x Treasured Find 3x Angelic Accord 2x Seance 3x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Doubling Season 2x Planar Cleansing The big selling point is that Doubling Season enhances 3x Angelic Accord and turns Seance into a very, very powerful reanimator (copy tokens are not exiled at the end of the turn) I'm liking this deck but I don't get Planar Cleansing. More often than not I'm stuck with this card in my hand because I don;t want to lose all the enchantments I have on battlefield. Can Someone explain the reasoning for this card in deck? |
Author: | HARBiNG3R [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:53 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Aranthys wrote: Just copying here a deck I found interesting on the official forums : Junk Reanimator (Premium) (By DJ0045) 24 Lands : 4x Golgari Guildgate 4x Orzhov Guildgate 4x Selesnya Guildgate 4x Forest 4x Plains 4x Swamp 21 creatures : 4x Lone Missionary 3x Wall of Omens 4x Satyr Wayfinder 4x Necromancer's Assistant 3x Pelakka Wurm 2x Rune-Scarred Demon 1x Griselbrand 15 spells : 3x Treasured Find 3x Angelic Accord 2x Seance 3x Rescue from the Underworld 2x Doubling Season 2x Planar Cleansing The big selling point is that Doubling Season enhances 3x Angelic Accord and turns Seance into a very, very powerful reanimator (copy tokens are not exiled at the end of the turn) Very similar to a build a friend runs, very powerful indeed. Good choices. |
Author: | wwBlackknightww [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:23 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
Ok, I've been trying to make a deck to work off of Tormented Hero/Agent of the Fates and this is what I came up with: basically an Aura Deck with a bunch of targeting spells. I'm not sure if I'm in the right colors, or if this just isn't viable with only 2 Agents...but I've been going about 1:1 and I know this can be better. Any/all suggestions welcome, including other colors. 4 x Plains 2 x Swamp 2 x Forest 4 x Selsnya Guildgate 4 x Golgari Guildgate 4 x Orzhov Guildgate 4 x Trained Caracal 4 x Gods Willing 3 x Tormented Hero 4 x Dead Weight 2 x Hero of Iroas 3 x Ordeal of Heliod 3 x Nimbus Wings 3 x Titanic Growth 1 x Brimaz, King of Oreskos 3 x Arrest 2 x Agent of the Fates 2 x Triumph of Ferocity 4 x Aura Gnarlid 2 x Hunter's Prowess Let me know what you guys think. |
Author: | Hakeem928 [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 7:28 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
I think the black heroic guys would be best in a more aggressive deck, probably WB. I was thinking of brewing something similar myself, using Ajani's Pridemate, Swift Justice, and Death Cultist with Auras and Gods Willing. My idea is basically just to build an aggro deck where the pump spells and combat tricks have extra value. No matter what you do, you're going to need more than 16 creatures. I also really dislike Triumph of Ferocity in every deck, I think it's a terrible card. I'll post a list if I get around to trying this today. |
Author: | wwBlackknightww [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:04 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
Yeah, I saw some people running triumph in the R/G decks I think and wanted to try it out. It hasn't been good. Prowess, however, has been awesome with the Heroic guys. 16 creatures hasn't been terrible with the protection from God's willing, and they are usually big enough to survive most red spells, but maybe I take out the 2 Triumphs and a Titanic growth and throw in some more creatures. Pretend for a second I wanted to stay in these colors, which I'm not convinced I do, what would you suggest I add? Maybe some Huntbeast? I'm also unsure about Caracal, but he's pretty good with an early Nimbus Wings or Ordeal |
Author: | Hakeem928 [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:16 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
I run Caracal in my WR Aura build and he's good there because you can beef him up; you have the Titanic Growths and some Auras, so I would imagine he has value here. Playing the deck is the ultimate test, though. How do you feel about Dead Weight after playing with the deck? I don't think the card is all that hot, but you are running Aura Gnarlid so it may play better than I imagine. Huntbeast would be great here, and then you could think about Advocate of the Beast, but if you do that I think the deck is straying too far from what you want it to be. Here are some random spells to consider, off the top of my head: Ulcerate Undying Evil Swift Justice I don't see many great creatures in the pool, maybe Wandering Wolf? |
Author: | wwBlackknightww [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:14 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
Dead weight has ended up being a black shock often enough that it's probably worth getting rid of. It rarely stays on the board long enough to affect Gnarlid. Undying evil is something I had originally considered, but causes auras to fall off and is pretty bad with Ordeal and Hero of Iroas. It may be worth testing out though. Swift Justice is something that I would like to try out also. I think Cutthroat Maneuver could work too as a more expensive option. Maybe a little too expensive though. Wandering Wolf is something I had not considered, but seems like he could fit in well as an aggressive creature. Going to have some things to try when I get home from work...I am interested to see what you come up with as well. |
Author: | 2bestest [ Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:27 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
Unfortunately cutthroat is missing the first strike. |
Author: | kid carter [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 2:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
I have been winning frequently with this deck (not keeping track but probably 3/4 games) so I thought I'd post it for others to have fun with and to glean some advice from the community. More times than not, Vizkopa Guildmage is the wincon, often during the opponent's upkeep due to Seance. Against a lot of decks, Planar Cleansing is damn near a necessity though (aggressive mulligans or smart rescues help). Grave Tidings 3 x Plains 3 x Swamp 6 x Forest 4 x Orzhov Guildgate 4 x Selesnya Guildgate 4 x Golgari Guildgate 4 x Lone Missionary 1 x Mentor of the Meek 2 x Seance 1 x Baneslayer Angel 2 x Planar Cleansing 2 x Tribute to Hunger 2 x Gravedigger 1 x Shadowborn Demon 3 x Rescue from the Underworld 2 x Rune-Scarred Demon 4 x Elvish Visionary 4 x Satyr Wayfinder 2 x Saruli Gatekeeper 1 x Pelakka Wurm 2 x Treasured Find 3 x Vizkopa Guildmage |
Author: | Gegliosch [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 9:39 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
Zz Death Inc zZ wrote: I'm liking this deck but I don't get Planar Cleansing. More often than not I'm stuck with this card in my hand because I don;t want to lose all the enchantments I have on battlefield. Can Someone explain the reasoning for this card in deck? Yes indeed, you either draw it early and wipe before you play enchantments or it's going to sit in your hand. Try the following changes: -3 Rescue from the Underworld -1 Wall of Omens -1 Griselbrand -2 Planar Cleansing +4 Saruli Gatekeepers +2 Sanguine Bond +1 Shadowborn Demon The emphasis on lifegain makes it easier to stall and come back from dangerously low life totals once the engine is up. It also makes Sanguine Bond extremely powerful in this deck. Shadowborn Demon is better than Griselbrand imo, because it's so easy to trigger the EtB-Effect. |
Author: | Phalgast [ Wed Aug 06, 2014 6:01 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Three Colored Decks |
About the junk reanimator deck
Spoiler
Wow this is one of the nicest decks i've seen so long for dotp 2015! Really great. I play it without planear cleansing (if the combo once works, it just doesn't need it - and i don't wanna destroy my enchantments!) and without Griselbrand (the deck needs ETB), also -1 Rescue, but with 4 Surauli Gatekeepers. This deck is so nasty. When the enemy know what you are doing its to late... real great deck, love it! Only negativ point: I almost never play the game to the end: if you made the turn-around, most opponents quit edit;: didn't see the last post. Sanguine Bond should work just awesome too, also shadowborn, I'll give it a try... that deck is just weird |
Author: | minddrifter [ Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:02 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: Magic 2015 - Abzan (White/Black/Green) |
I agree Phal, the "Abzan" Reanimator deck is my favorite so far with . |
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