No Goblins Allowed :: Mechanics

A plane that no longer moves. One side is completely frozen and the other is a hellish wasteland where the sun never sets.

Card Type Matters (not subtype, I'm talking the stuff Tarmogoyf cares about)

LilyStorm wrote:

Perhaps I should have made a simpler criteria, but we really should start making keywords and mechanics besides relics so we can get this set really going...

True, true. Give it its own thread or discuss it in the Starstill general thread?

124/245 Cards

61/108 Commons
34/64 Uncommons
21/57 Rares
8/16 Mythics

39 Cards of each color
28 Colorless
10 Multicolor
12 Lands

23/39 White Cards

White Commons

White Uncommons

Collector of Antiques

Ethereal Armor

Remove from Reality

Runes of the Guardian

White Rares

White Mythics

20/39 Blue Cards

Blue Commons

Subterranean Scrawlings

Turn Back

Written in Steel

Blue Uncommons

Frostblight Foresight

Frostblight Scavenger

Blue Rares

Delve into the Unknown

Rune-gear Tinkerer

Sleep Cycle

Blue Mythics

Glacinorak, the Frozen Heart

22/39 Black Cards

Black Commons

Cheapshot Enthusiast

Cremate

Instruments of Torture

Irondeep Spelunker

Mindshivers

Rattleskull Viashino

Seal of Churned Earth

Black Uncommons

Black Rares

Black Mythics

Lich of Lost Treasures

20/39 Red Cards

Red Commons

Seal of Shattered Steel

Red Uncommons

Viashino Surprise Attack

Red Rares

Gleam Collector

Sandquake

Sparksigil Apprentice

Red Mythics

Anjomeddon, the Sun Itself

20/39 Green Cards

Green Commons

Resurgence of Strength

Seal of Flourishing Blossoms

Green Uncommons

Green Rares

Consult the Elder Trees

Green Mythics

15/28 Colorless Cards

Colorless Commons

Colorless Uncommons

Colorless Rares

Shatterspear Insignia

Colorless Mythic

Mox Amber

10 Multicolor Cards

Multicolor Rares

4/12 Lands

Land Commons

Land Uncommons

Land Rares

I like morph on noncreatures here. It gives you two types of permanents to choose from.

We could bring back Transmute as a way to make one card type into another.

Mercurial – Whenever an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land enters the battlefield, this card becomes that card's card types in addition to its other types until end of turn. As long as it's a creature, it's a 2/2. As long as it's a land, it has "

: Add

to your mana pool."

Animate [1] (As long as this permanent has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a 0/0 Artifact Creature in addition to its other types.)

Fleeting (Whenever you cast an instant spell, you may return this permanent to its owner's hand.)

[If/As long as] you have mastery, [Effect]. (You have mastery as long as you control an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a land.)
Mastery—[Ability] (Activate this ability only if you control an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a land.)

[Card type] tribute (You may cast a [card type] spell by sacrificing this and paying the difference in mana costs between that card and this one.)

[Card type] bringer (When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may cast a [card type] card from your hand with converted mana cost less than that of this card without paying its mana cost.)

Animate [1] (As long as this permanent has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a 0/0 Artifact Creature in addition to its other types.)

Animate [2] target permanent (It becomes a 2/2 creature until end of turn. It retains all other types and abilities)

Animate [3] (as long as ~ has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a creature with power and toughness equal to its converted mana cost)

Rituals
Runes of Protection

Enchantment - Ritual
(At the beginning of your upkeep, reduce ~'s duration by 1. ~ ends when its duration becomes 0.)
Creatures you control get +0/+2.
2

Essentia
Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Creatures you control get +0/+2.
Essentia 3/3 (You may cast this spell as a sorcery with "Put a colorless 3/3 Spirit creature token onto the battlefield.)

Caldera Sabertooth

Creature—Elemental Cat (U)
Blitz

(If you cast this spell for its blitz cost, it has haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.)
Each creature card in your hand has blitz. The blitz cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by

.
3/1

Surge
Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Surge

(You may cast this card for it's Surge cost. If you do, it enters the battlefield with haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next upkeep.)
Creatures you control get +0/+2.

Animate [4]
Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Animate [4] - Creatures you control get +0/+2. (You may have ~ enter the battlefield as a creature in addition to it's other types. If you do, it loses this ability.)
3/5

Creature
Erupt

—~ deals 2 damage to target creature. (You may cast this card for its erupt cost from your hand or from the battlefield. If you do, it's an instant spell with the given text.)
2/1

Permanents that are spells.

Instant
Draw two cards, then discard a card.
Acolyte

(If you cast this spell for its acolyte cost, it's a 1/1 Spellshaper creature spell with ", Discard a card: You may cast a copy of this card for its mana cost.")

Spells that are Spellshapers.

I like morph on noncreatures here. It gives you two types of permanents to choose from.

Shazzeh wrote:

[Card type] tribute (You may cast a [card type] spell by sacrificing this and paying the difference in mana costs between that card and this one.)

This is offering, as seen on Patron of the Akki. "goblin" can be replaced with a card type. Tribute is from BNG.

Two more mechanics fo everyone's consideration. Sorry for complicating things Parad.

TPzombieW wrote:

Two more mechanics fo everyone's consideration. Sorry for complicating things Parad.

What are you apologizing for? You're all supposed to be posting mechanics!

I like Enliven.

Runes of Protection

Enchantment - Ritual
(At the beginning of your upkeep, reduce ~'s duration by 1. ~ ends when its duration becomes 0.)
Creatures you control get +0/+2.
2

Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Creatures you control get +0/+2.
Essentia 3/3 (You may cast this spell as a sorcery with "Put a colorless 3/3 Spirit creature token onto the battlefield.)

Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Surge

(You may cast this card for it's Surge cost. If you do, it enters the battlefield with haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next upkeep.)
Creatures you control get +0/+2.

Runes of Protection

Enchantment
Kindle - Creatures you control get +0/+2. (You may have ~ enter the battlefield as a creature in addition to it's other types. If you do, it loses this ability.)
3/5

Author:	ParadOxymoron [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:12 pm ]
Post subject:	Mechanics
LilyStorm wrote: A plane that no longer moves. One side is completely frozen and the other is a hellish wasteland where the sun never sets. TPzombieW wrote: Card Type Matters (not subtype, I'm talking the stuff Tarmogoyf cares about) TPzombieW wrote: LilyStorm wrote: Perhaps I should have made a simpler criteria, but we really should start making keywords and mechanics besides relics so we can get this set really going... True, true. Give it its own thread or discuss it in the Starstill general thread? I had planned for people to do this in in the General Discussion and Planning thread, but it didn't really happen that way. This is the thread specifically for Starstill mechanics. If you've got a cool idea for a mechanic, post it here and see what people think! We also need to decide upon an old mechanic to bring back. Ideas so far include rebound, [cardtype]fall, [card type] offering, and affinity for [card type]s. Set Map 124/245 Cards 61/108 Commons 34/64 Uncommons 21/57 Rares 8/16 Mythics 39 Cards of each color 28 Colorless 10 Multicolor 12 Lands 23/39 White Cards White Commons 1 – Banish 2 – Consortium Customs 3 – Encapsulate 4 – Indomitable Will 5 – Lightbearer 6 – Seal of Gleaming Sun 7 – Shackles of Order 8 – Springhaven Medic 9 – Sunchaser Elder 10 – Unshakable Resolve 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 White Uncommons 1 – Auspicious Reversal 2 – Collector of Antiques 3 – Ethereal Armor 4 – Remove from Reality 5 – Runes of the Guardian 6 – Steelsoul Saint 7 – Sun Spirit 8 – Sunchaser Procession 9 10 11 White Rares 1 – Apostle of Elori 2 – Radiant Messenger 3 – Solar Flare 4 – Voice of Unity 5 6 7 White Mythics 1 – Reification of Elori 2 3 20/39 Blue Cards Blue Commons 1 – Consortium Engineer 2 – Dehydration 3 – Ethereal Form 4 – Mist Weaver 5 – Seal of Frigid Winds 6 – Snowblind Haint 7 – Solidify 8 – Subterranean Scrawlings 9 – Turn Back 10 – Written in Steel 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Blue Uncommons 1 – Frostblight Foresight 2 – Frostblight Scavenger 3 – Qualified Research 4 – Spellbound Serpent 5 – Steam Cloak 6 – Wall of Clouds 7 8 9 10 11 Blue Rares 1 – Delve into the Unknown 2 – Rune-gear Tinkerer 3 – Sleep Cycle 4 5 6 7 Blue Mythics 1 – Glacinorak, the Frozen Heart 2 3 22/39 Black Cards Black Commons 1 – Cheapshot Enthusiast 2 – Cremate 3 – Instruments of Torture 4 – Irondeep Spelunker 5 – Mindshivers 6 – Rattleskull Viashino 7 – Seal of Churned Earth 8 – Shamebearer 9 – Wraith's Whisper 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Black Uncommons 1 – Brains and Bodies 2 – Brittle Bones 3 – Dark Rising 4 – Deathly Chill 5 – Icy Whisper 6 – Scavenged Plans 7 – Snowstorm Shadow 8 – Student of Finality 9 10 11 Black Rares 1 – Eater of Dreams 2 – Gravefall 3 4 5 6 7 Black Mythics 1 – Death World 2 – Endless Night 3 – Lich of Lost Treasures 20/39 Red Cards Red Commons 1 – Crystalline Lasher 2 – Desert Shimmer 3 – Go Haywire 4 – Hellish Snowstorm 5 – Ignite the Ashes 6 – Insult to Injury 7 – Knifetail Waylay 8 – Living Bonfire 9 – Seal of Shattered Steel 10 – Snowblind Brute 11 – Viashino Sandscout 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 Red Uncommons 1 – Magespark Elemental 2 – Rabid Fireweasel 3 – Raid the Ruins 4 – Tinderbranch 5 – Viashino Surprise Attack 6 7 8 9 10 11 Red Rares 1 – Gleam Collector 2 – Sandquake 3 – Sparksigil Apprentice 4 5 6 7 Red Mythics 1 – Anjomeddon, the Sun Itself 2 3 20/39 Green Cards Green Commons 1 – Adaptive Yeti 2 – Borderland Ranger 3 – Cloak of Winter 4 – Grove Tender 5 – Loamblood Druid 6 – Lurking Frostjaw 7 – Oathbreaker 8 – Relic Crusher 9 – Resurgence of Strength 10 – Seal of Flourishing Blossoms 11 – Shivering Soil 12 – Wasteland Sanctifier 13 14 15 16 17 18 Green Uncommons 1 – Track to the Lair 2 – Viashino Suncaller 3 – Wanderlust Wendigo 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Green Rares 1 – Consult the Elder Trees 2 – Crushthread Sage 3 – Moss Giant 4 – Restoration Spirit 5 6 7 Green Mythics 1 – Tarmogoyf 2 3 15/28 Colorless Cards Colorless Commons 1 – Antique Guardian 2 – Druid's Heirloom 3 – Prismatic Wanderer 4 – Sunchaser Golem 5 – Tank Golem 6 – Wandering Collective 7 – Weathered Cloak 8 9 10 11 12 13 Colorless Uncommons 1 – Coldmetal Coat 2 – Icecore Golem 3 4 5 6 7 Colorless Rares 1 – Archmage's Staff 2 – Cloud Key 3 – Cutthroat Automaton 4 – Scavenger's Sack 5 – Shatterspear Insignia 6 7 Colorless Mythic 1 – Mox Amber 10 Multicolor Cards Multicolor Rares 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 4/12 Lands Land Commons 1 – Forgotten Library 2 3 4 5 Land Uncommons 1 – Quiet Factory 2 – Spire of Creation 3 – Spire of Hope Land Rares 1 2 3 4 5

Author:	Ace of Moxes [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
I like morph on noncreatures here. It gives you two types of permanents to choose from.

Author:	ParadOxymoron [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Ace of Moxes wrote: I like morph on noncreatures here. It gives you two types of permanents to choose from. Mown wrote: We could bring back Transmute as a way to make one card type into another. ParadOxymoron wrote: Mercurial – Whenever an artifact, creature, enchantment, or land enters the battlefield, this card becomes that card's card types in addition to its other types until end of turn. As long as it's a creature, it's a 2/2. As long as it's a land, it has ": Add to your mana pool." altimis wrote: Animate [1] (As long as this permanent has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a 0/0 Artifact Creature in addition to its other types.) ParadOxymoron wrote: Fleeting (Whenever you cast an instant spell, you may return this permanent to its owner's hand.) ParadOxymoron wrote: [If/As long as] you have mastery, [Effect]. (You have mastery as long as you control an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a land.) Mastery—[Ability] (Activate this ability only if you control an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a land.) Shazzeh wrote: [Card type] tribute (You may cast a [card type] spell by sacrificing this and paying the difference in mana costs between that card and this one.) ParadOxymoron wrote: [Card type] bringer (When this permanent enters the battlefield, you may cast a [card type] card from your hand with converted mana cost less than that of this card without paying its mana cost.) altimis wrote: Animate [1] (As long as this permanent has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a 0/0 Artifact Creature in addition to its other types.) TPzombieW wrote: Animate [2] target permanent (It becomes a 2/2 creature until end of turn. It retains all other types and abilities) TPzombieW wrote: Animate [3] (as long as ~ has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a creature with power and toughness equal to its converted mana cost) Mown wrote: Rituals Runes of Protection Enchantment - Ritual (At the beginning of your upkeep, reduce ~'s duration by 1. ~ ends when its duration becomes 0.) Creatures you control get +0/+2. 2 Mown wrote: Essentia Runes of Protection Enchantment Creatures you control get +0/+2. Essentia 3/3 (You may cast this spell as a sorcery with "Put a colorless 3/3 Spirit creature token onto the battlefield.) Steinhauser wrote: Caldera Sabertooth Creature—Elemental Cat (U) Blitz (If you cast this spell for its blitz cost, it has haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.) Each creature card in your hand has blitz. The blitz cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by . 3/1 Mown wrote: Surge Runes of Protection Enchantment Surge (You may cast this card for it's Surge cost. If you do, it enters the battlefield with haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next upkeep.) Creatures you control get +0/+2. Mown wrote: Animate [4] Runes of Protection Enchantment Animate [4] - Creatures you control get +0/+2. (You may have ~ enter the battlefield as a creature in addition to it's other types. If you do, it loses this ability.) 3/5 Steinhauser wrote: Creature Erupt —~ deals 2 damage to target creature. (You may cast this card for its erupt cost from your hand or from the battlefield. If you do, it's an instant spell with the given text.) 2/1 Permanents that are spells. Steinhauser wrote: Instant Draw two cards, then discard a card. Acolyte (If you cast this spell for its acolyte cost, it's a 1/1 Spellshaper creature spell with ", Discard a card: You may cast a copy of this card for its mana cost.") Spells that are Spellshapers. Just wanted to gather all the keywords submitted so far together into one post.

Author:	ParadOxymoron [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Ace of Moxes wrote: I like morph on noncreatures here. It gives you two types of permanents to choose from. I think Morph's been experimented with enough, don't you? Then again, maybe I'm just thinking of that BCP with Morph in it. I guess that's beyond most people's memory-range.

Author:	Ace of Moxes [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
ParadOxymoron wrote: Shazzeh wrote: [Card type] tribute (You may cast a [card type] spell by sacrificing this and paying the difference in mana costs between that card and this one.) This is offering, as seen on Patron of the Akki. "goblin" can be replaced with a card type. Tribute is from BNG.

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Author:	Ace of Moxes [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:37 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Ah. I suggest a new temporary name, gnireffo. I feel like this is focusing on a different aspect of morph.

Author:	TPzombieW [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Two more mechanics fo everyone's consideration. Sorry for complicating things Parad. Enliven target ____ (It becomes a 2/2 creature until end of turn. It retains all other types and abilities) Animate would maybe be a better name, but if the animate proposal dies, then we can always snag the name. This one competes directly with animate, so I think we could start off with a vote between the two so they don't undermine each other in the final vote. That or if everyone can vote for multiple mechanics it's not so bad. Awaken (as long as ~ has a +1/+1 counter on it, it is a creature with power and toughness equal to its converted mana cost)

Author:	LilyStorm [ Wed May 21, 2014 11:58 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
He suggested we make a new thread is what he meant.

Author:	altimis [ Thu May 22, 2014 12:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Not exactly a keyword, but a mechanical twist... "Can't untap until" versus "doesn't untap during"

Author:	TPzombieW [ Thu May 22, 2014 12:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
ParadOxymoron wrote: TPzombieW wrote: Two more mechanics fo everyone's consideration. Sorry for complicating things Parad. What are you apologizing for? You're all supposed to be posting mechanics! I like Enliven. Oh, I thought we might have already been at the voting stage. Apology retracted.

Author:	Mown [ Thu May 22, 2014 4:54 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Ritual wrote: Runes of Protection Enchantment - Ritual (At the beginning of your upkeep, reduce ~'s duration by 1. ~ ends when its duration becomes 0.) Creatures you control get +0/+2. 2 Emphasizes the religious undertones, plays into temporary aspect, makes non-aura enchantments more feasible at common because they don't clutter, makes Mown happy because it's his pet type. Essentia wrote: Runes of Protection Enchantment Creatures you control get +0/+2. Essentia 3/3 (You may cast this spell as a sorcery with "Put a colorless 3/3 Spirit creature token onto the battlefield.) Gives you cards that can turn into both sorceries and creatures, but is overall highly wacky. Also needs special rules for Twincast etc, probably. I realize that it's probably better to just use "Cost, discard ~: Put token into play." Surge wrote: Runes of Protection Enchantment Surge (You may cast this card for it's Surge cost. If you do, it enters the battlefield with haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next upkeep.) Creatures you control get +0/+2. Taken from Steinhauser. Slightly modified to work better with toughness modifiers by not having them expire before damage does. Temporary, can go on any permanent, fits in many colors. Kindle wrote: Runes of Protection Enchantment Kindle - Creatures you control get +0/+2. (You may have ~ enter the battlefield as a creature in addition to it's other types. If you do, it loses this ability.) 3/5 Well, I don't know really. I would have called it Animate, but that was already taken for this discussion. We could bring back Transmute as a way to make one card type into another.

Author:	TPzombieW [ Thu May 22, 2014 9:48 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
I like Essentia - lets cards be different types to different players. We should also settle the set's rules on coloured artifacts and enchantment creatures. Forbidden? All over the place? Only in small doses?

Author:	Shazzeh [ Thu May 22, 2014 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
I guess I'm fine with enchantment creatures because everyone seems to be submitting them for some reason but can we come up with some kind of identity for them so it's not just arbitrary? Like they have to have some kind of "global" triggered or static ability?

Author:	LilyStorm [ Thu May 22, 2014 11:06 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Also are we going to do snow? The only reason I care about this is the possibility of snow.

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Author:	TPzombieW [ Fri May 23, 2014 12:36 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Enchantment creatures - I don't see us not doing these. I would keep their numbers small though, and we need some kind unifying criteria. How about they all have to have static abilities (ones that are always on)? Snow - Maybe we could do snowbrid mana? Like costs that have to be payed with a mana of a specific colour or snow mana? That would be a good thing to put on coloured artifacts to keep them pseudocolourless (like what they did in New Phyrexia with the Phyrexian mana). I do worry though that snow is one layer of complication too many. Coloured artifacts - Against them unless we can find some new twist on the idea. They've done whole artifact sets without them, so we can certainly do a type matters set without them too.

Author:	ParadOxymoron [ Fri May 23, 2014 12:38 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
I like Snow too, Lily, but what does it offer to the set mechanically? We need to answer that before we randomly include it.

Author:	Mown [ Fri May 23, 2014 1:09 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
I don't like snow. It doesn't add anything. Champion a [type] could also be an interesting mechanic to bring back.

Author:	altimis [ Fri May 23, 2014 1:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Starstill – Mechanics
Snow should only be included if we add something similar for the opposite side. Then we could have certain spells have specific effects based on Snow or [Illpyre side]. Like a fire spell that deals 4 damage to target snow creature, or 2 damage to target [Illpyre side] creature. If that's the case, I'd be okay with snow, and if we did that, I think Tempered could be the opposite of it?