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Keep or Mulligan?
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Author:  zzmorg82 [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:57 pm ]
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Saw this on the Magic stream today; it's an interesting situation. What do y'all think? Image

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Author:  Giocher [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:01 pm ]
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Mulligan. No action.
Author:  BounceBurnBuff [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:05 pm ]
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Mulligan.
Author:  Mortivore666 [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:11 pm ]
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Mull
Author:  Honze [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:11 pm ]
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Unless you rigged your deck so you know exactly what those clues are going to fish up for you, it's a Mulligan against the supposed "Unknown Deck".

And even rigging your deck, You'd still have to pray for bad RNG on the opponent's side.
Author:  Giocher [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:17 pm ]
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Also since we are talking about interesting situations, here's a thread that was completely ignored. It's about some standard puzzles by Frank Karsten.
viewtopic.php?f=38&t=18120
Author:  SquiderDragon [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:39 pm ]
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Mulligan
Author:  felbatista [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 3:43 pm ]
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Did Chiang hack zz's account? Why this thread is in the Duels subforum?
Author:  zzmorg82 [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 6:30 pm ]
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felbatista wrote:
Did Chiang hack zz's account? Why this thread is in the Duels subforum?


No he didn't, lmao. I plan to use this thread for future screenshots from Duels aswell. Image

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OT: I would probably keep the hand for a few reasons:

1. Since we're playing Mardu Ballista instead of Vehicles, I can expect a lot more removal in our deck instead so the probability to draw into removal/Planswalkers is much more higher than average.

2. We have our 3rd land drop in hand and perfect mana if we topdeck an UD; having 3 different colors also means we can bluff a Fatal Push, Shock, Harnessed Lightning, etc.

3. At the baseline minimum we'll have 4 1/2s our oppenent will have to get through by turn 4.

4. We're on the play which is a much better situation than being on the draw with this type of hand.

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Author:  Banedon [ Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:38 pm ]
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In Duels, I'd keep that hand (of course, we don't have Thraben Inspector, but them's the breaks). It's not a great hand but we have all our colours + we have clues we can crack while still playing more Inspectors.

In Standard, I don't know, since I've not played that format at all.
Author:  Haven_pt [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:44 am ]
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Its a Keeper.
All your colors, 3 lands which will let you cast most of your stuff and standard doesn't have a stainless shuffler, so the odds of drawing something good next is acceptable.
Also 1-drops are good and these happen to give you card advantage, as well as applying early pressure while being terrible targets for opponent to waste removal on.
I would go for it.
Author:  Sl33pHumper [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 3:16 am ]
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I would keep it. Bird in the hand is better than 2 in the bush. We have lands early doods to drop that give us draw.

Dropping to 6 unknown cards seems like I would hate myself if it turned out to be something unkeepable or 1 land with 4 drops.

What's a magic stream?
Author:  Banedon [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:00 am ]
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^ https://www.twitch.tv/magic
Author:  Light [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:12 am ]
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That's a keep.
You are on the play , with all your colors, and by turn three you will have 3 inspectors with 3 clues + 2 unknown cards and 2 open mana.

Of course it also depends on how your deck usually draws. If you would mull this then that is an aggressive/risky mulligan which I usually only do with decks that do well with those. That information can really only come from experience playing the deck.
Author:  Black Barney [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:25 am ]
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That's a clear keep

You have all your colours , early blocks and a ton of draw. I like this hand. All that's missing is Karl Zev.

Class dismissed.
Author:  Giocher [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:34 am ]
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Remember about your deck. It's mardu ballista. This hand has some value, but what can this deck do without an aggro start? If your opponent has no pressure, decks like temur tower, temur aetherworks, copycat, also mirror, will have easy life against your first 3 turns. Not sure if you can put enough pressure after 3 turns and 3 inspectors.

Think about your possible draws, Toolcraft Exemplar is fine but not what you hope for, Scrapheap Scrounger is good, Veteran Motorist is maybe the best one. But what else? Lands are not good, Heart of Kiran is not super here since you have to wait turn 4 to crew it, Gideon not good, Unlicensed Disintegration is a fine card but not in this scenario where you don't put pressure but mostly defensive, Walking Ballista not exciting, and idk about other cards.
Author:  Black Barney [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:42 am ]
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Yeah but once I drop the third inspector my opponent will Dec in Stone my inspectors and I'll have SIX clues!
Author:  NightHawk233 [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:54 am ]
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Then only 2 more to go! Mechanized production
Author:  Modulo [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:10 am ]
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I will keep an 11-card hand, thank you very much.
Author:  callmemaggit [ Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:32 am ]
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Ummm...definitely low on power but still: great mana, some early board presence and then good draw isn't a bad hand...way better than mulliganing to a 1/5 lander... which would be certainly your punishment if you offend the shuffler by beign so posh. Fact.
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