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Author:  Sjokwaave [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:31 am ]
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The decklists:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fh_DhnqC5gJiv7jFSvk2YyklUy1ZkwY0hI9sRFm56qs/edit#gid=0

Didonko - :w: White Winnie
THEgreatWood7 - :r::w: Boros Aggro
Syber - :g::w: Selesnya Humans
Haven_pt - :r::b: Rakdos aggro
Origin - :r::b: Rakdos Aggro
Infamousgemini - :g::r: Gruul Wolves
Binderato - :u: Blue Flyers
eflux - :g::u: Simic Flash
CamperKing - :g::u::w: Bant Midrange
Thelona - :g::b: Golgari Aggro
Light - :g::b: Golgari Midrange
Giocher - :g::b: Golgari Emerge
DeadRoma - :g::b: Golgari Snek
Bufon - :g::b: Golgari Snek
Atmadog - :g::r::b: Jund Snek
GimmickMan - :g::r::b: Jund Snek
Crazyrazor - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
Fuss - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
TainteD - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
WoodlandWanderer - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
shaolin_cb - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
Sjokwaave - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
Joly - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
despwn - :r::w::b: Mardu Vehicles
Matttoofar - :r::u::b: Grixis Spells
Popo9911 - :r::u::b: Grixis Control
WrightJustice - :r::u::b: Grixis Mill/Control
BATMAN - :r::u::b: Grixis Reanimator
Wintervoid - :r::u::b: Grixis Walkers
theKryan - :r::u::b: Grixis Walkers
Galmael - :r::u::w::b: 4C Walkers
Yondar - :u::b: Dimir Midrange
n1gh7w1sh3r - :r::u::w: Jeskai Thopters
TheWizard - :g::u::b: Sultai Grapple
Torgandworf - :g::u::b: Sultai Midrange
Nighthawk233 - :g::u::r: Temurge
WeCoexist - :r::u: Izzet Aggro/Burn
Author:  BounceBurnBuff [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Showdown AER Meta Discussion Thread
The deck that I'm most curious about, and the one I've been trying out this morning, is Yondar's Dimir Midrange. ATM I've managed to see the appeal of turn 2 Ballista > turn 3 Touch for a 6/6 beatdown with potential extra point of ping, but I've had a hard time hitting more than 2 of those 22 lands :(
Author:  NightHawk233 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:08 am ]
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The lack of Druid of the cowl's (only one running them!) and ramp in general really surprises me, I thought consistent turn 2 ramp would be a feature of this tourney, but it's practically non existent.

Hell there's only 20 expertises kicking around despite how busted they are.
Author:  InFaMoUsGeMiNi [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:14 am ]
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Snakes, Vehicles, & Grixis everywhere!
Author:  -DarkShock- [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:15 am ]
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I guess this is the Unlicensed Disintegration meta, with a side order of Snek.
Author:  DJ0045 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:24 am ]
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NightHawk233 wrote:
The lack of Druid of the cowl's (only one running them!) and ramp in general really surprises me, I thought consistent turn 2 ramp would be a feature of this tourney, but it's practically non existent.

Hell there's only 20 expertises kicking around despite how busted they are.


Yeah, the low amount of mid range ramp surprises me too.

Also, the lack of elf decks surprises me too, elfs have been one of the most consistent decks for me this season thus far. 3 main board Rec Sages seems good in this meta, alongside 3 fatal push, really answers vehicles well, and then you get to run elves. :)
Author:  Goblin Rabblemaster [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:04 am ]
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Why is it surprising that no few people play 2 mana elf dorks. It's something we didn't really have before, but its not that 2 mana dorks into 4 drops is a viable modern strategy. Wild Nacatl into Swords to Plowshares however is....
Author:  Sjokwaave [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:05 am ]
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The more I look at Joly's deck the more it has me intrigued; definitely a bit left field for a vehicle deck. Higher on the curve than most, utilises Displacer, and despite having Hub, Wilds and black mana he isn't running Unlicensed Disintegration. Seems to be favouring :c: with Foundry for the Displacer effect. If I was that deep in colourless I'd probably consider Smasher myself if I was going into midrange.

Might have to give it a go and see how it plays.
Author:  WoodlandWanderer [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:07 am ]
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i help Joly click thumbs up on the above reply.
Author:  WoodlandWanderer [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:24 am ]
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Guess no green druid midrange because everyone foresees vehicles aggro meta... big green ground creatures hydra or wanderer or TKS can't defend vehicles air attack, not enough removals, sweepers are less effective either. Midrange is very awkward at this point. When packed with removals, threat density goes down and becomes too vulnerable to control. This season feels even worse than the last one.
Author:  BounceBurnBuff [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:30 am ]
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Why use Druid to ramp into a threat turn 4 when you can win on turn 4? Hell, that "threat" can even provide you with the target reach you needed via Unlicensed Disintegration ;)
Author:  zzmorg82 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:42 am ]
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I'm expecting Mardu Vehicles to win in this Showdown aswell; wouldn't be surprised if Grixis Control takes it though.

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Author:  megabeast37215 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 11:52 am ]
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zzmorg82 wrote:
wouldn't be surprised if Grixis Control takes it though.

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Smoke more weed Zz.
Author:  InFaMoUsGeMiNi [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Showdown AER Meta Discussion Thread
I crossed out the names and deck of people I believe won't make top 12. I'm choosing 12 players because according to Modulo's math, there will be x1 6-0, x4 5-1's, and x7 4-2's.

Spoiler


Taking a break...I will finish this up soon.

EDIT: need to test the rest to confirm my pick for top 12
Author:  NightHawk233 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:17 pm ]
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InFaMoUsGeMiNi wrote:
I crossed out the names and deck of people I believe won't make top 12. I'm choosing 12 players because according to Modulo's math, there will be x1 6-0, x4 5-1's, and x7 4-2's.

Spoiler


Taking a break...I will finish this up soon.


And here's the list of people who care about your thoughts:
Spoiler
Author:  megabeast37215 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:20 pm ]
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So.. players he likes, or who play a deck similar to his tournament deck or favorite decks. Seems legit.
Author:  divinevert [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:21 pm ]
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Gem predicting his Gruul Werewolves deck is going to make the top 12.

Bold.
Author:  NightHawk233 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:23 pm ]
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Seriously though, i'd like to point out during Moss season i think only 2-4 decks made top 8 with that deck over the two tournies, and here you're predicting 9 places for mardu vehicles, that's bold :p
Author:  megabeast37215 [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:24 pm ]
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divinevert wrote:
Gem predicting his Gruul Werewolves deck is going to make the top 12.

Bold.


It's a deck he likes.. so obviously it's better than 20+ other decks.

I bet he'd blow his load all over anyone who played an Improvise deck with 4 Bonesaws.
Author:  InFaMoUsGeMiNi [ Mon Feb 13, 2017 1:29 pm ]
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megabeast37215 wrote:
So.. players he likes, or who play a deck similar to his tournament deck or favorite decks. Seems legit.

WRONG. I crossed out Joly and Woodland. They are good and they play the best archetype but I don't like their builds.

I basically crossed out half off all Mardu decks.
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