Meh; Oblivion Ring will just get blown up by Enchantment/Artifact hate that's popular right now; especially if they're going against people with all the cards available to them.
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| Author: | Dmannn [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
How would you guys feel about them adding oblivion ring to the starter box? There has been plenty of complaining over the last few months about vehicles and PWs-- some of which are valid, but not all. O-ring would not only help with both, but it would give the starter box kids more of a fighting chance. So, do you think O-ring would be an appropriate inclusion, or do you think it would become too universal and maybe give too much of an edge to controlling decks? It would essentially make cards like thopter arrest obsolete, but redundancy is nothing new to duels. |
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| Author: | zzmorg82 [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
Meh; Oblivion Ring will just get blown up by Enchantment/Artifact hate that's popular right now; especially if they're going against people with all the cards available to them.
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| Author: | Dmannn [ Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
It could, which doesn't make the card OP in duels. |
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| Author: | megabeast37215 [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
I think it would be a welcome addition for the starter box. The new players need a catch-all like this for all the tryhards. It would really give those White Weenies/Boros Auras decks they always play, a fighting chance vs substantially better decks. At least give the baby seals a pistol.. |
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| Author: | Dmannn [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
megabeast37215 wrote: I think it would be a welcome addition for the starter box. The new players need a catch-all like this for all the tryhards. It would really give those White Weenies/Boros Auras decks they always play, a fighting chance vs substantially better decks. yeah, and the extra enchantment synergy that would come along with it wouldnt be insubstantial.
At least give the baby seals a pistol.. |
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| Author: | BounceBurnBuff [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
I'd be for this. It wouldn't be all that busted in Duels. |
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| Author: | Eonblueapocalypse [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
If we got O-Ring I would be compelled to try and recreate the time that LSV crashed Modo by causing an infinite O-Ring loop. 
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| Author: | Ello-Asty [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
Oblivion Ring? I want Stassis Snare plz and thank you! |
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| Author: | felbatista [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
Oblivion Ring would be a terrible addition for Duels. Banishing Light, on the other hand, is a much better fit 
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| Author: | BounceBurnBuff [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
felbatista wrote: Oblivion Ring would be a terrible addition for Duels. Banishing Light, on the other hand, is a much better fit There's a difference that'll REALLY matter in Duels? 
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| Author: | felbatista [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
BounceBurnBuff wrote: felbatista wrote: Oblivion Ring would be a terrible addition for Duels. Banishing Light, on the other hand, is a much better fit There's a difference that'll REALLY matter in Duels? Oh boy, smilies don't carry any meaning these days 
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| Author: | BounceBurnBuff [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
felbatista wrote: BounceBurnBuff wrote: felbatista wrote: Oblivion Ring would be a terrible addition for Duels. Banishing Light, on the other hand, is a much better fit There's a difference that'll REALLY matter in Duels? Oh boy, smilies don't carry any meaning these days Rich coming from you But yes, I expected sarcasm 
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| Author: | felbatista [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
Point is, O-Ring is not comming back because it has wording Wizards doesn't use anymore. Your best bet is Light. |
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| Author: | BounceBurnBuff [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
felbatista wrote: Point is, O-Ring is not comming back because it has wording Wizards doesn't use anymore. Your best bet is Light. Yup 
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| Author: | eaglenitewillow [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
what wording is that? looks fine to me. everyone of the words on the card is used on other cards(other than the obvious name of the card). enchantment, exile, permanent, non land, etc, are all still used. what am I missing? only word I remotely see it could be, is the word "another" and that doesn't really make sense to me that it would be that, but meh. |
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| Author: | Psychatog [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
eaglenitewillow wrote: what wording is that? looks fine to me. everyone of the words on the card is used on other cards(other than the obvious name of the card). enchantment, exile, permanent, non land, etc, are all still used. what am I missing? One can target any permanent, one can target your opponent's permanents only. |
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| Author: | divinevert [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
eaglenitewillow wrote: what wording is that? looks fine to me. everyone of the words on the card is used on other cards(other than the obvious name of the card). enchantment, exile, permanent, non land, etc, are all still used. what am I missing? Oblivion Ring could be bounced/removed before the card is exiled, which caused the target permanent to be exiled permanently. Doesn't happen with Banishing Light's wording. |
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| Author: | felbatista [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
divinevert wrote: eaglenitewillow wrote: what wording is that? looks fine to me. everyone of the words on the card is used on other cards(other than the obvious name of the card). enchantment, exile, permanent, non land, etc, are all still used. what am I missing? Oblivion Ring could be bounced/removed before the card is exiled, which caused the target permanent to be exiled permanently. Doesn't happen with Banishing Light's wording. Bingo. All current versions of the effect use Light's wording exactly to prevent this interaction. It might sound like an extreme corner case for O-Ring, but it was incredibly easy to do with, for example, Fiend Hunter. |
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| Author: | divinevert [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
If we had Fiend Hunter, I'd probably run a flicker deck. |
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| Author: | Lord Rumfish [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Starter box proposal: Oblivion Ring |
I have a whole list of suggestions we might make to the starter box. If you're interested, I could post some highlights in this thread. |
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