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Author:	gnubbish [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:59 am ]
Post subject:	we need upkeep
It doesnt really make sense to punish players who are using Oath of Jace by giving their opponent priority during their upkeep phase. If you dont have an upkeep trigger you will be safe from something like elder deep fiend, but if you have an oath of jace out your opponent can respond to its trigger and tap your lands down before main phase. I would suggest reporting this to the wizards customer support team as a bug, because while the lack of upkeep is probably a design choice, the above irregularity makes it wildly unbalanced. either add upkeep or remove the unfair interactions. get the word out, post on reddit too!

Author:	eaglenitewillow [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:46 am ]
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During upkeep you or opponents are able to use fast effects like casting instants and creature or other abilities that happen at the speed of an instant, so as long as I am understanding what you are saying, then game works as intended. While yes you get priority first since it is your turn, opponent gets to respond after yours is going into effect. If I am missing what you are saying, then please elaborate.

Author:	InFaMoUsGeMiNi [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:04 am ]
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I turn on the upkeep with Duskwatch Recruiter/Lambholt Pacifist. I've had a game once where I burnt something on upkeep and my opponent top deck a pump spell which would've saved them! Lol

Author:	-DarkShock- [ Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:09 am ]
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I think what the OP is saying is that at the moment there is no upkeep phase unless an effect is triggered on upkeep and if there is it allows your opponent to play instants or flash spells prior to your 1st main phase when normally they could not do this. Elder Deep Fiend is the nasty example where you could tap down 4 lands before the person can cast anything other than instants which they probably dont have.

Author:	marnel.estrada [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:00 am ]
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I also want a legitimate implementation of upkeep where there's passing of priority. Not what we have now where it's only possible if there are upkeep triggers.

Author:	Psychatog [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 9:17 am ]
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They will never add this to their "introductory product". It would make it too complex for the baby seals.

Author:	Black Barney [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:06 am ]
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your avatars are TEH WORST

Author:	Psychatog [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:00 pm ]
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Black Barney wrote: your avatars are TEH WORST You're not a fan of the Super Mario Brothers movie? At least I change mine . If you have something better for me to use as an avatar then send it to me, there isn't exactly a lot of Psychatog fanart out there...

Author:	elk [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:14 pm ]
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Psychatog wrote: Black Barney wrote: your avatars are TEH WORST You're not a fan of the Super Mario Brothers movie? At least I change mine . If you have something better for me to use as an avatar then send it to me, there isn't exactly a lot of Psychatog fanart out there... Here ya go. elk

Author:	zzmorg82 [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:39 pm ]
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Black Barney wrote: your avatars are TEH WORST

Author:	Black Barney [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:18 pm ]
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Go with Elk's suggestion. ZZmorg's new avatar is a trannie i think

Author:	Psychatog [ Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:29 pm ]
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elk wrote: Psychatog wrote: Black Barney wrote: your avatars are TEH WORST You're not a fan of the Super Mario Brothers movie? At least I change mine . If you have something better for me to use as an avatar then send it to me, there isn't exactly a lot of Psychatog fanart out there... Here ya go. elk Done, it is a bit wide though. I'll see if I can trim it. Edit: Done been trimmed!

Author:	elk [ Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:27 pm ]
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Psychatog wrote: Spoiler elk wrote: Psychatog wrote: You're not a fan of the Super Mario Brothers movie? At least I change mine . If you have something better for me to use as an avatar then send it to me, there isn't exactly a lot of Psychatog fanart out there... Here ya go. elk Done, it is a bit wide though. I'll see if I can trim it. Edit: Done been trimmed! Bwhahaha! I noticed you're avatar change in another thread and had to come looking for this post to comment. That's awesome! elk

Author:	Goblin Rabblemaster [ Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:00 pm ]
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Implementing upkeep would only matter for a handful f cards in Duels, so I understand why it does not receive priority (get it). Duels being an entry level casual product is s a thing, they have stuck to that d design decision since day 1. It sucks, and keeps Mon Calamari from being the best creature in duels, but we won't get it.

Author:	Black Barney [ Tue Feb 14, 2017 3:03 pm ]
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Goblin Rabblemaster wrote: so I understand why it does not receive priority (get it).

Author:	reptileye [ Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:19 am ]
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I wish the game had the same step system as in MTGO. Stuff like the opponent knowing you have something to cast in hand because the game doesn't go to the next step automatically is dumb for example. Also a bit more time available between steps. I remember i couldn't attack my opponent because the time i took on main phase was too much and once i hit the next step it totally skipped the combat phase. Unbelievable. EDIT: Now i remember someone make a comment about it. It seems to be a bug, but still.

Author:	sixty4half [ Sat Feb 18, 2017 8:04 am ]
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Black Barney wrote: your avatars are TEH WORST Says the guy with the worst avatar on the internet.

Author:	Super Twonky [ Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:58 am ]
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I actually just ran into a situation where not having an upkeep caused my opponent to lose. They had Walking Ballista in play. I milled them out on my turn with Sphinx's Tutelage. They didn't quite have enough counters on the Ballista to kill me during my turn, but they would have been able to put a few extra counters on it during their upkeep to kill me before their Draw step.

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