Please see the attached screenshot for detils. I might wait one more turn to maximize the damage though.

I've just calculated if i had attacked next turn, opp would be at least -1008 counting all creatures (42) were 1/1 instead of -308. Chance of drawing two board wipe cards are very low. One I might counter of course. I'm bored, yeah.

Bored eh ?

Alright, lets see if we can improve on that.

Cards needed:

Saheeli's Artistry x2
Cultivator of Blades x3
Might of the Masses x4
Nissa, Voice of Zendikar x1
Greenwarden of Murasa x1

Setup - start with Nissa, +1 for tokens and -2 for counters every third turn. Play Cultivator of blades, leave counters on it. Play first Saheeli's Artistry on Cultivator, and get a Cultivator which is an artifact. Play Greenwarden, return Saheeli. Now, each turn, play Saheeli targetting Greenwarden and the artifact Cultivator. - when Greenwarden enters, return Saheeli's Artistry. Do Nissa's thing. Rinse, repeat and keep going until you and opponent are almost out of cards. You should be online by turn 14 given goldfish magic draws, leaving 40+ turns to build tokens.
When you attack with everything, you should have 100+ tokens in the 20/20+ power/toughness range. Then every Cultivator triggers, and the FIRST one that tries to resolve, hit it with 4* Might of the Masses - bringing it to 400/400+. Ability resolves, and ALL your attackers are 400/400+, then the second Cultivator triggers, doubling the power. And so on.

That's 400*2^40 = 439804651110400 power/toughness for EACH token.

Boom.

Yes, Duels can't handle it. It will max out at 9999/9999 pr token and opponent can't go below -9999.

But now you know bored.

Nobody can be that bored!

Challenge accepted!

Animate lands with the other Nissa, copy them with Saheeli to make artifact lands, then.... ok, I'll stop now. I'm at work, or I might actually do something really insane

Mwuanno accepted it! Make sure to post your screen shot!


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Oh you!

Well, I made the setup and with 45 cards left in library, I have my first "Token Basic Artifact Land - Forest". Next question, where will I go with this ? Make 9999 energy counters ? Harnessed Lightning for 9999 damage on a 1/1 ? I have a hard time topping my previous post

Ideas ? Anyone ?

[edit]I animated Gideon with his +1, then copied him and got a "Token Artifact Planeswalker - Gideon". I'm impressed that Stainless didn't **** that up.

[edit2] Ran out of boredom - screenshots saved on Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/mwuanno/screenshots/

Probably around 400.000 damage. Can hit a million without crashing the client I think.

Mirrorwing dragon plus might of the masses gg no re

I should do that one day (Mirrowing + Cultivators + 100 Zombie tokens from Lili + (x) Might of the Masses) just to hit the damage cap for my stats page.

#LifeChangingGoals

There is no stats-page on Steam afaik. So I can't be bothered.

Regarding Mirrorwing vs Cultivators, it's the same. If you target a cultivator with 4 might of the masses and 100 creatures, it gets +400 power and when the ability resolves, all your attackers get those +400 power. If you target Dragon, it'll look funny with 400 spells on the stack, but the end result is the same.

With 100 zombie-tokens, you'll "just" do 400*100*cultivators double-damage count. If you make 100 cultivator tokens instead, you will hit for 400*2^100 damage. Get ready for it:

507.060.240.091.291.760.598.681.282.150.400 damage.

Using Short scale names, that's 507 nonillion, 60 octillion, 240 septillion, 91 sextillion, 291 quintillion, 760 quadrillion, 598 trillion, 681 billion, 282 million, 150 thousand, 400 damage.

So like overkill but not unlimited or anything crazy. Due to the clients restrictions, it'll be different though. You should go for 100 tokens, and of those, just 8 of them need to be cultivators if you go with Might of the Masses * 4. If you don't want to bother with casting 4 instants, just do 20odd cultivator tokens and 80 other tokens. That'll bring them to 9999/9999 regardless and you hit for a million ish.

Just get a Liliana emblem on turn 10, wait 50 turns, then have a lot of anthem effects in play and you'd do well over 50 digits worth of damage.

Or play with 250-card decks and do even more damage ...

Uhhh... no ?

Liliana on turn 10 and then 50 turns of generating zombies will get you 2^51-1 zombies.

Or 1.125.899.906.842.623 to be exact. Then you say "a lot of anthem effects" - ok, sure, lets call that +998/+998 anthem-effects. That should be "a lot". Then you swing for 1.125.899.906.842.623.000 damage. Still only 19 digits worth of damage. Quite far from 50 and quite far from my previous example.

Go 250 cards ? Let me guess, to give you more turns to generate zombies ? There are many ways to generate unlimited turns in magic, none of which are present in Duels. But since we are in duels, max deck-size is 100 cards. You say turn 10 for Liliana, that's 17 cards into your deck. So 83 turns to generate zombies if you don't tech around the limited library (you can). With 83 zombies, you're still WAY below the damage in my example.

I did the math, because I was bored and it wasn't really much of an effort. So there.

Meanwhile I've attacked for 6k damage with the same deck. Didn't bother to wait more. My phone showed signs that game would crash.

OK I did the math wrong - used 6^50 like a retard (2-power, + some anthems = ~6 power, to the power of 50 - clearly wrong).

Still, it can't be that hard to get even more damage. Try this, for example. After spending the first 7 turns playing Zombies (taking turn 3 off to play Liliana), you ultimate Liliana on turn 7 (not turn 10 - she starts with 3 loyalty; it's a sign that I wasn't treating things carefully), you play Emeria Shepherd, and then return Liliana to the battlefield. Another 3 turns later (because of Oath of Gideon), you get another Liliana emblem. By turn 93, you'd have something like 30 (?) Liliana emblems with untold numbers of zombies, and then you use your anthem effects with Cultivator of Blades, Primal Bellow, Might of the Masses, Gideon emblems (of which you'd have many, via the same method of recurring Liliana), Nissa -2, etc, and do damage well over 9000 damage. Of course while you're doing all this you'd also be doing things like blinking Undead Servant to get more zombies.

The numbers cited may be off, but I'm too lazy to be precise. In a world where players only have ~20 health, over 9000 damage is effectively infinite.

True - but it's still nowhere near the efficiency you get from multiplying Cultivator of blades. If you wanna go there with a 100card deck for extra turns and magical christmasland of draws, you'd copy your lands for the first 20 turns to get a boatfull (40-ish), then spend the next 70 turns copying 5 cultivator of blades pr turn, making an attack with 350 of them. Say hello to 2^350 multiplied with whatever starting power they have. Could go on and on, and we're still talking limited damage.

There are MTG combos that literally loops forever and you can just agree on "unlimited" as a number.

And you need those when opponent has a similar loop and you just agree on him/her gaining "unlimited" life.

Now, lets never mention Precursor Golem and Rite of Replication kicked... although the math on that is quite fun: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L_F ... jzhrY/edit

Time to withdraw from this, it has all been mentioned before