No Goblins Allowed :: Best and Worst Card in Game

I get the feeling were just gonna be hearing 'Path to Exile/Force of Will and Omniscience' a lot here. If I can make a suggestion why not make it best and worst card for each deck? A little more work yes but could lead to some fun discussion.

Deadwalkers – Farbog Boneflinger (anyone seen this even once?..)
Chant – Rites of Flourishing (I’ve never ever seen this card)

Also garren I waited for you, but for the love of everything, remove the spoilers. That triples my amount of work man.......

mjack33 wrote:

Also garren I waited for you, but for the love of everything, remove the spoilers. That triples my amount of work man.......

Fair enough but the post is gonna be huge. Just a warning.

Edit: Ah forget it not going to bother with justifications. I'll defend my choices if anyone asks about them.

Edit Edit: Okay Done! Add 'em to the slate.

Author:	mjack33 [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:53 pm ]
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Out of the 17 decks that exist, what are the best and worst card in each deck? Basic lands need not apply. Current Leaders Best MM - force of will DW - corrupt LOD - rune-scarred demon HS - predator ooze COTM - avenger of zendikar and tooth and nail SM - immaculate magistrate FW - inferno titan GOL - kor spiritdancer BB - cathars' crusade AG - path to exile UB - accumulated knowledge MOTD - stolen identity and spinal embrace and last gasp DB - remand SS - umezawa's jitte ETD - dragon broodmother HOC - rhox war monk SH - mirror entity Worst MM - omniscience DW - soul bleed LOD - lord of the pit HS - wurmskin forger COTM - rites of flourishing SM - mythic proportions FW - stalking vengeance GOL - staff of the sun magus BB - ancestor's chosen and welkin guide AG - angel's mercy UB - silent-blade oni and cerulean sphinx MOTD - vengeful vampire DB - spirit away SS - myojin of infinite rage ETD - torrent of fire and artifact mutation HOC - battleflight eagle SH - coat of arms Votes Best Mind Maze - force of will 5, lord of the unreal 2, counterspell 1 Deadwalkers - grave pact 1, gravecrawler 2, corrupt 3, undead warchief 1, Grave Titan 1 Demons - no mercy 2, bloodgift demon 2, rune-scarred demon 3, diabolic servitude 1, damnation 1 Hunter's Strength - predator ooze 4, green sun's zenith 1, rancor 1, eternal witness 1 Chant - avenger of zendikar 3, tooth and nail 3, primeval titan 2 Elves - immaculate magistrate 3, joraga warcaller 1, sylvan messenger 2, timberwatch elf 1 Firewave - flamebreak 1, inferno titan 2, chandra's phoenix 1, seismic assault 1, browbeat 1, sulfuric vortex 1 Guardians - kor spiritdancer 7 Boon - cathars' crusade 5, restoration angel 1, cloudgoat ranger 1 Avacyn - champion of the parish 3, path to exile 4, baneslayer angel 1 Reanimator - accumulated knowledge 3, keiga, the tide star 1, dimir doppelganger 1, exhume 1, exhume 1 Dimir - last gasp 2, stolen identity 2, dinrova horror 1, spinal embrace 2, chittering rats 1 Izzet - banefire 1, remand 4, breaking point 1, electrolyze 1 Samurai - umezawa's jitte 8 Dragons - maelstrom pulse 2, dragon broodmother 3, flameblast dragon 1, broodmate dragon 1, form of the dragon 1 Bant - rhox war monk 3, sublime archangel 2, finest hour 2 Slivers - mirror entity 4, path to exile 2, thorncaster sliver 1, predatory sliver 1 Worst Mind Maze - omniscience 7 Deadwalkers - soul bleed 4, farbog boneflinger 3 Demons - lord of the pit 7 Hunter's Strength - wurmskin forger 5, biorhythm 1 Chant - rites of flourishing 5, exploration 1, bountiful harvest 1 Elves - mythic proportions 3, verdant embrace 1, biorhythm 2 Firewave - stalking vengeance 3, staff of the flame magus 2, inferno 1 Guardians - guardian's magemark 1, staff of the sun magus 3, healer of the pride 1, divine transformation 1 Boon - ancestor's chosen 3, welkin guide 3 Avacyn - voice of the provinces 3, angel's mercy 4 Reanimator - silent-blade oni 2, cerulean sphinx 2, dimir cutpurse 1, reanimate 1, gather specimens 1 Dimir - dire undercurrents 1, vengeful vampire 3, guardian of the ages 2, smog elemental 1 Izzet - spirit away 4, stolen goods 1, fireblast 1 Samurai - ronin warclub 1, myojin of infinite rage 4, avatar of slaughter 2 Dragons - torrent of fire 3, artifact mutation 3, kilnmouth dragon 1 Bant - battleflight eagle 6 Slivers - lifeline 2, groundshaker sliver 1, coat of arms 4

Author:	Lexxx20 [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:59 pm ]
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Best I would say Path to Exile with Force of Will on par with it. Worst would be Omniscence or Myojin of Infinite Rage.

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:01 am ]
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That is one vote for path then. You can vote for as many bad cards as you want, but you only get one vote for "best". I say it's still force of will and omniscience. No matter how far this game goes, counters are still as annoying as all hell, and omniscience remains the most useless card ever. Even the myojin could technically do something without a really extensive combo if you ever manage to cast it.

Author:	Garren_Windspear [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:04 am ]
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I get the feeling were just gonna be hearing 'Path to Exile/Force of Will and Omniscience' a lot here. If I can make a suggestion why not make it best and worst card for each deck? A little more work yes but could lead to some fun discussion.

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:06 am ]
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Garren_Windspear wrote: I get the feeling were just gonna be hearing 'Path to Exile/Force of Will and Omniscience' a lot here. If I can make a suggestion why not make it best and worst card for each deck? A little more work yes but could lead to some fun discussion. Sure Done Voting Starts over though

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Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:20 am ]
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There I put mine up. I will add whatever you guys vote for when I get a chance.

Author:	Lexxx20 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:03 am ]
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Oh, that’s fun! Best: Mind Maze – Force of Will Deadwalkers – Gravecrawler Lords of Darkness – Bloodgift Demon Chant – Avenger of Zendikar Avacyn’s Glory – Path to Exile Unfinished Business – Accumulated Knowledge Masks of the Dimir – Stolen Identity Sword of the Samurai – Jitte Dragons – Dragon Broodmother Slivers – Mirror Entity Worst: Mind Maze – Omniscience Deadwalkers – Farbog Boneflinger (anyone seen this even once?..) Lords of Darkness – Lord of the Pit Chant – Rites of Flourishing (I’ve never ever seen this card) Avacyn – Voice of the Provinces 1 Unfinished Business – Cerulean Sphinx Masks of the Dimir – Guardian of the Ages Samurai – Myojin of Infinite Rage Dragons – Torrent of Fire Slivers – Groundshaker Sliver

Author:	Draconarius [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:31 am ]
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Lexxx20 wrote: Deadwalkers – Farbog Boneflinger (anyone seen this even once?..) Chant – Rites of Flourishing (I’ve never ever seen this card) I've seen both hit the table. As well as Voice of the Province and Guardian of the Ages. BEST Avacyn's Glory - Path to Exile Bounce & Boon - Cathars' Crusade Chant of Mul Daya - Tooth and Nail Deadwalkers - Corrupt Dodge & Burn - Remand Enter the Dracomancer - Dragon Broodmother Firewave - Inferno Titan Guardians of Light - Kor Spiritdancer Hall of Champions - Sublime Archangel Hunter's Strength - Predator Ooze Lords of Darkness - Rune-Scarred Demon Masks of the Dimir - Dinrova Horror Mind Maze - Force of Will Sliver Hive - Path to Exile Swords of the Samurai - Umezawa's Jitte Sylvan Might - Immaculate Magistrate Unfinished Business - Keiga, the Tide Star Worst Avacyn's Glory - Angel's Mercy Bounce & Boon - Welkin Guide Chant of Mul Daya - Rites of Flourishing Deadwalkers - Soul Bleed Dodge & Burn - Spirit Away Enter the Dracomancer - Artifact Mutation Firewave - Staff of the Flame Magus Guardians of Light - Staff of the Sun Magus Hall of Champions - Battleflight Eagle Hunter's Strength - Wurmskin Forger Lords of Darkness - Lord of the Pit Masks of the Dimir - Vengeful Vampire Mind Maze - Omniscience Sliver Hive - Coat of Arms Swords of the Samurai - Myojin of Infinite Rage Sylvan Might - Verdant Embrace Unfinished Business - Dimir Cutpurse

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:36 am ]
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Lexx and Drac added. Lexx you only voted for 10 decks. In a new post, so that I don't have to do a lot of thinking, would you be willing to vote for the others? Also garren I waited for you, but for the love of everything, remove the spoilers. That triples my amount of work man.......

Author:	psuedonym_sic [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 11:45 am ]
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Best: Mind Maze: Force of Will Deadwalkers: Corrupt Lords of Darkness: Rune-Scarred Demon Hunter's Strength: Predator Ooze Chant of the Mul Daya: Tooth and Nail Sylvan Might: Immaculate Magistrate Firewave: Inferno Titan Guardians of Light: Kor Spiritdancer Bounce and Boon: Cathars' Crusade Avacyn's Glory: Path to Exile Unfinished Business: Accumulated Knowledge Masks of the Dimir: Spinal Embrace Dodge and Burn: Remand Sword of the Samurai: Umezawa's Jitte Enter the Dracomancer: Maelstrom Pulse Hall of Champions: Sublime Archangel Sliver Hive: Mirror Entity All of these are game winners, either singlehandedly or pretty close. Worst: Mind Maze: Omniscience Deadwalkers: Soul Bleed Lords of Darkness: Lord of the Pit Hunter's Strength: Wurmskin Forger Chant of the Mul Daya: Rites of Flourishing - At least Exploration doesn't kill you. Sylvan Might: Mythic Proportions? Having trouble deciding this one. Firewave: Stalking Vengeance - I want to like it but it belongs in gimmick decks only. Far too expensive. Guardians of Light: Divine Transformation. So many better auras. Bounce and Boon: Ancestor's Chosen Avacyn's Glory: Angel's Mercy - What's better less unplayable, 2 overcosted blockers or 7 life? Unfinished Business: Tough one. Gonna have to settle on Cerulean Sphinx. Masks of the Dimir: Vengeful Vampire Dodge and Burn: Spirit Away Sword of the Samurai: Avatar of Slaughter - Seriously? People are saying the Myojin is less playable than suicide on a stick? Enter the Dracomancer: Torrent of Fire. Artifact Mutation would be pretty good if there were more artifacts around. If. Hall of Champions: Battleflight Eagle - It took until this thread for me to remember this was even in the deck. That's how awful it is. Sliver Hive: Coat of Arms

Author:	Filobel [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:38 pm ]
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Garren_Windspear wrote: mjack33 wrote: Also garren I waited for you, but for the love of everything, remove the spoilers. That triples my amount of work man....... Fair enough but the post is gonna be huge. Just a warning. Edit: Ah forget it not going to bother with justifications. I'll defend my choices if anyone asks about them. Edit Edit: Okay Done! Add 'em to the slate. Well, I'd love a justification for reanimate as the worst card in UB. It's an amazing card and is vital to the all-in build. I'll try to give my own list when I get back from work.

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:57 pm ]
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Garren, do you truly believe that exploration is worse than into the wilds and rites of flourishing?

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:10 pm ]
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Updated @sic, I personally think warclub is the worst card in the deck. It's a 3 cmc 5 equip cost +2/+1. That may move around, whether or not you want it to. I didn't want to go the route of really expensive creature that would be devastating if you ever got it out (but you never will ), but people pick myojin just because it's 10 mana and the deck can't really get to that reliably.

Author:	Sacade [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:14 pm ]
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Best Mind Maze - Lord of the Unreal Deadwalkers - corrupt Demons - bloodgift demon Hunter's Strength - Green Sun's Zenith Chant - avenger of zendikar Elves - immaculate magistrate Firewave - Seismic Assault Guardians - kor spiritdancer Boon - cathars' crusade Avacyn - Baneslayer Angel Reanimator - Rune-Scarred Demon Dimir - stolen identity Izzet - Breaking Point Samurai - umezawa's jitte Dragons - Flameblast Dragon Bant - Finest Hour Slivers - mirror entity Worst Mind Maze - omniscience Deadwalkers - farbog boneflinger Demons - lord of the pit Hunter's Strength - wurmskin forger Chant - rites of flourishing Elves - mythic proportions Firewave - staff of the flame magus Guardians - staff of the sun magus Boon - welkin guide Avacyn - voice of the provinces Reanimator - silent-blade oni Dimir - Smog Elemental Izzet - Fireblast Samurai - myojin of infinite rage Dragons - artifact mutation Bant - battleflight eagle Slivers - coat of arms

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Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:16 pm ]
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Sacade I have to go, so I have to add you later. Sorry. Interesting choices though. So far it seems like jitte, spiritdancer, and crusade are just going to sit on top of their respective decks for a while.

Author:	Filobel [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:46 pm ]
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I get it, everyone tried Oni and it was disappointing due to lack of evasion. Is it really worst in the deck than Cerulean Sphinx though? Or Fool's Demise?

Author:	mjack33 [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:26 pm ]
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I only had 10 minutes, so I couldn't update everything, but I put in a Best column, and I'll add a worst column later. I added everyone's votes.

Author:	Sacade [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:29 pm ]
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I play less than half of this decks so take my choice with a grain of salt. Oni doesn't look good to me but I don't know Unfinished Business enough to be sure Maybe Cerulean Sphinx is worst but I like flying creatures