You only summon him if you placate his intense narcissism. Here let me try...

I only WISH I could pull off 90% win rates will all my decks. He's a tremendous competitor.

I'm sure you'd crush the Hearthstone ladder with a bunch of white and blue cards though..

Look Vert ran up the ladder with just D cards as an experiment, and Gemini made a deck two seasons ago out of D cards that gave me fits. If you can't win against the horrid competition on Xbox.. I'm gonna do something I do extremely rarely, and tell you to git gud. The competition on Xbone is a joke 50% of the time.. you should be able to win half of the other games vs good players bc you're a supposed veteran of the game.

Because you don't have mostly D cards.

I used to. And I made the best decks I could at the time
Madness vamps if I remember right.

Also, read Beasts post.

^ This has not changed.


Beast's post doesn't matter to me, because telling me to piss off is not exactly a way to convince me the game is good or that I should play it.

The thread is called "Is X a deterrent for new users to stick around?" It's not called "Barney, Megabeast, and Hakeem tell people to git gud and suddenly new player deterrents don't exist b/c we say so."

Whether or not I need to "git gud" is irrelevant. What IS relevant is whether or not I care to, and the average new player will not. So if the game is frustrating to the point where I am going to quit, whether or not the game is actually hard to ladder in is irrelevant. All of this "well Barney was able to do this" and "Gemini was able to do this" and so on means absolutely **** because you aren't the people who aren't going to stick around.

What you think people should get frustrated at and what people actually get frustrated at are not necessarily the same thing, and if you want to **** about how the game isn't getting enough new players for your liking then you need to realize that you can't reasonably expect everyone who tries the game to "git gud" and do a bunch of research. The way the game currently treats people starting out is not a way to grow the playerbase, as evidenced by the fact that the Steam player base has not grown since August 2015.

I hate you so very much. I hope your next NGA iteration is a lot more interesting. Let us pray...

Well I can't stand your workout videos so we are even.

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It could have been here already for months and no one would know....

Lol, I'll admit sweatin to the oldies hasn't aged well. Now, let me transition in peace.

...see? Why can't you write fun posts like that all the time ??

Because people don't respond often enough to make it worthwhile, and thus anti-fanboy-circlejerk is the main reason to chime in every now and then.

Talking to myself gets old after a while.

Jack you can get butthurt all you want.. but a veteran player should still be able to win over half his games even with just D cards. It's been done. You can whine about the game all you want, and I'll probably tell you that you're right.. but as a VETERAN against inferior competition, you shouldn't be getting seal clubbed anymore than 1/3 of the time. So yeah.. git gud actually applies here.. even though I think it's an immature, obnoxious thing to say.. the shoe fits.

I've not played the game in over a year, have no idea what the meta looks like, and don't even know what decks people are playing that are supposed to be good aside from "aggro vehicles". I never do that kind of research before trying these games, b/c my philosophy is that if the game is so **** I get frustrated and want to quit ..... then that's a sign that it isn't a good game. I don't want to get artificially attached b/c I did research and did artificially well, rather than experiencing the game at its best/worst.

The initial experience was/is so bad that I simply don't care to go out and now learn what the meta is. I spent X number of hours doing the story and spent X number of hours playing the multiplayer. I hated every moment of it. I decided I do not like the game, and that I won't invest a lot of time into an experience I enjoyed this little starting out. I will try it again in another couple of expansions. Going out and "gitting gud" would imply I want to keep going right now.

If you don't agree with that answer...... too bad. I gave the game an honest try by my standards, and expecting more of anyone is just going to lead to disappointment.

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"Butthurt" is relative. Now that I've had my say and been mostly ignored I'm okay with whatever.

Why are you going to try again in a few expansions when it will certainly be the same experience of haves vs have nots? I seriously doubt there will ever be crafting cards or buying individual cards.

FWIW: I had a blast tonight..

When Barney said I was more interesting than a "glorified Mjack alt", I didn't know what he meant.

Thanks bro

Did we get more AER cards compared to what we previously get , or have the packs become more expensive ? I'm a few hundred gold short when I thought I had more than enough. 9600 to unlock every card in AER ? That's significantly more expensive then previous seasons aint it ?

Alright, time to chime in here.

Part of the reason I have given so much thought and analysis to the D cards is because I like to consider the new player experience of the game. If you are fresh out of the gate, you've done your skill tutorials and your story mode campaigns, then what you have are the D cards, a modest sum of gold, and a handful of free packs (Origins, and wasn't there one other campaign arc that gave free packs?). While you can make a modest dent into a single set if you focus your initial purchases, in reality it is the D cards that will be the beating heart of your decks. For me, it has always been a question of being able to beat the AI. I don't grind players, I grind AI. Not everyone plays that way, but it worked for me. I just had to focus on what each season's AI metagame was like (Razorfoot Griffin early on, now you need Reclamation Sage to deal with the Smuggler's Copters and Skysovereign, Consul Flagship) and build accordingly.

I'm going to be starting a new thread soon to revive the "new player decks" theme. First, I am going to post a list of all the D cards, because WotC/Stainless in their infinite wisdom have turned off the ability to search for the D cards in the deckbuilding tools. Before I post each deck, I am going to playtest it to make sure it has at least a reasonable win ratio against the AI. If I think a D card deck I built is capable of getting somewhere on the ladder, I'll playtest it there and flag a special post about it. I do care about the new player experience, and I am curious if I might be able to help them out by posting about some D card decks, and then offering advice about how to upgrade them depending on which sets you are focusing on unlocking (also giving advice to new players to pick a set and stick with it for purposes of synergy).

For most people here it's been a very long time since they versus dueled using a deck of over 50% D cards. Thus, I highly suggest that they try to re-experience how new players may feel by versus duelling 10 games using such a starting deck. Your idea is a great start.

Maybe if it took longer to get cards, then new players would be more likely to be matched against an opponent that doesn't have too many more cards than them.

Wow, I'm having trouble figuring out your swear words. Not sure whether to be impressed that you know awesome/hilarious mutations of common curse words, or in awe that you don't know how to use basic curse words. Does the filter catch bitch? That's a pretty weak word to filter, but it's my best guess for #2... guess I'll find out in a second. Edit: nope, I'm at a loss.

Anyways, I didn't read this whole thread so I don't really know what's going on (surprise!), but I do imagine that current card count is a barrier for new players. I got paired up against the same level 1 player in back to back games a day or two before release, and the poor bastard just conceded T2, as soon as he saw I was running the same deck that curb stomped him G1 (felt a little bad about that, but I had quests to close out, yo).

If matchmaking actually improves on xbone, and rank 1's don't constantly get paired against rank 40's, then barrier might not be as bad. No big deal if your competition is also running D card decks. But when competition has everything unlocked and you're a new player running some Frankenstein's creation of reject dumpster trash and moderately tolerable roll players, that's incentive to uninstall.

What mark777 is trying to say is, he likes to win. Apparently with little effort. That's how he enjoys his games. I'm not saying its bad its just the way he judges games.

Stainless made the game as fair as possible by making the matches whenever possible to be with players near your level(win/lost). It doesnt care if you have all the cards or not. If your a veteran player, I don't see why you keep on loosing. Or why you keep on whining.

To be fair, rank matches may have been fine on steam/iOS, but xbone paring has been all over the place. At rank 40, I'd still be playing 50+% of my games against single digit ranks (I'm certain I played more rank 1s there than rank 40s). Pretty sure it didn't factor in rank at all on xbone, before this season at least. Hopefully that's been fixed now...