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campaign of vengeance is super over costed, no deck is going to seriously run a conditional enchantment at 5 cmc

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Oh yeah, the July 4th Liliana picture confirms Unsubstantiate is in Duels.

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Dark Salvation looks really good. At worst, it's an Eyeblight Assassin, at best you remove a mid-to large-sized threat while putting some Zombies in play. Loving it.

Mirrorwing Dragon and Collective Defiance? Sign me up!
Not quite on the hype train for Unsubstantiate, but who knows.

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Holy crap, we get Mirrorwing Dragon.
And Collective Defiance.

I didn't think the Mirrorwing could be possible, after they denied us Zada, Hedron Grinder

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Wow! Nice. I can't wait to have fun with the Dragon, though it is mythic.

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though it is mythic.


Red is getting some good quantity of draw card combinations; the dragon is a bit pricey for an Izzet build, but it could be fancy in some rampier deck. And that could also lessen the 1 copy Mythic burden.

Not sure. EMN seems to have enough juyce for everybody.


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That Orzhov enchantment will really allow you to ramp up the damage in lifedrain archetypes.. especially with Cliffhaven Vampire on the field in 2HG games.

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divinevert wrote:
babassoonist wrote:
campaign of vengeance is super over costed, no deck is going to seriously run a conditional enchantment at 5 cmc

Sigil doe

oh yeah all of those people playing sigil out there, it's like the most meta of decks


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Combo with sorin's ultimate?


Cliffhaven Vampire is all you need.

Something like...
Indulgent Aristocrat
Kalastria Healer, can get them to 18.
Vampire Envoy, can get them to 15.
Cliffhaven Vampire, can get them as low as 8. 11 if you limit to only attacking with flier.
Campaign of Vengeance, can do 10 just on assignment, never mind the combat damage.
and none of that is even rare. and can probably find equivalents at each point on the curve, like Thornbow Archer or Drana's Emissary.

That is pretty close to my orzov lifegain aggro deck. I had already suspected that Enchantment would be good there... Well pointed out!

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Honze wrote:
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Holy crap, we get Mirrorwing Dragon.
And Collective Defiance.

I didn't think the Mirrorwing could be possible, after they denied us Zada, Hedron Grinder

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Called it!


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Mirrorwing Dragon + Chandra's Ignition = ???


Already asked for Zada; Chandra's ignition damages all creatures, so at best you'de able to pull 2 activations following the stack's sequence.

Not as good as directly targeting your fatty and make it wipe everything.


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Is there no good way to take advantage of this ability by targeting your own spells with instant speed removal like evoleap around? Outside of the annoying fact that that would be a late game type of thing to do.


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Is there no good way to take advantage of this ability by targeting your own spells with instant speed removal like evoleap around? Outside of the annoying fact that that would be a late game type of thing to do.

also the fact that that is an entirely pointless thing too do


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Is there no good way to take advantage of this ability by targeting your own spells with instant speed removal like evoleap around? Outside of the annoying fact that that would be a late game type of thing to do.

also the fact that that is an entirely pointless thing too do


I don't know, but casting Languish during your opponents turn could be fun. But yeah, mostly opposing spells are best targets. Also makes Processor cards a bit more viable seeing how this card seems to be an interesting enabler.


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Empo wrote:
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Is there no good way to take advantage of this ability by targeting your own spells with instant speed removal like evoleap around? Outside of the annoying fact that that would be a late game type of thing to do.

also the fact that that is an entirely pointless thing too do


I don't know, but casting Languish during your opponents turn could be fun. But yeah, mostly opposing spells are best targets. Also makes Processor cards a bit more viable seeing how this card seems to be an interesting enabler.

except we already have a way to cast sweepers on the opponents turn and no one plays that. Lets not forget to control when you want to cast your card you need to be able to remove your own creature, and when you're doing that why not just remove theirs?


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Honze wrote:
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Mirrorwing Dragon + Chandra's Ignition = ???
Already asked for Zada; Chandra's ignition damages all creatures, so at best you'de able to pull 2 activations following the stack's sequence.

Not as good as directly targeting your fatty and make it wipe everything.
But think of the face damage!


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Empo wrote:
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Is there no good way to take advantage of this ability by targeting your own spells with instant speed removal like evoleap around? Outside of the annoying fact that that would be a late game type of thing to do.

also the fact that that is an entirely pointless thing too do


I don't know, but casting Languish during your opponents turn could be fun.


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except we already have a way to cast sweepers on the opponents turn and no one plays that. Lets not forget to control when you want to cast your card you need to be able to remove your own creature, and when you're doing that why not just remove theirs?


In which case only 1 slightly useful scenario comes to mind: Having a creature ready in case mass removal hits. But yeah, too bad Brain in a Jar sucks due to artifact removal, lack of speed and the limitation by counters. I WANT QUICKEN DANGIT!


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Noose Constrictor - 1G

Creature - Snake - Uncommon

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Discard a card: Noose Constrictor gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

"More rope may not be necessary." -Kep, Lunarch inquisitor

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Wild Mongrel seems to get a comeback. Sweet


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Noose Constrictor - 1G

Creature - Snake - Uncommon

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Discard a card: Noose Constrictor gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

"More rope may not be necessary." -Kep, Lunarch inquisitor

2/2

Wild Mongrel seems to get a comeback. Sweet

Not fully sure how a snake has reach but it's white and pretty:
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