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Maro’s Innistrad: Crimson Vow Teaser
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Author:  Radical Jackal [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:17 pm ]
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Author:  Radical Jackal [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:21 pm ]
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There is speculation that the combo return is Thalia and Geist of Saint Traft

Invitation counters sounds fun

Here are some possible returning faction mechanics that feel most at home on Innistrad but if it a mechanic about humans banding together or something there are other possibilities.
Afterlife
Bloodthirst
Devour
Exploit
Undergrowth

Author:  Ragrio [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:58 pm ]
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I really hope the new legendary character returning, but now as a vampire, isn't Odric or Thalia. Wouldn't put it past them.

Author:  CommanderJim [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:58 pm ]
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Hal and Alena would make sense as the pair getting a card together.

The Snapcaster baiting is strong.

Spectacle is a faction mechanic that would work great with the flavor and what the MID vampires were doing, but it might be too recent to come back already.

I love that someone is becoming a vampire. For a world where all the main monster races were once human, I don't think we've seen any legendary transformations outside of zombies. I can't think of anyone who was printed as a human and later became a spirit or vampire or werewolf.

Author:  neru [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 7:51 pm ]
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If you mean on two separate cards: Ramirez dePietro and Ghost of Ramirez dePietro

Author:  CommanderJim [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:26 pm ]
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neru wrote:
If you mean on two separate cards: Ramirez dePietro and Ghost of Ramirez dePietro

lol, you got me there. Although I was thinking more specifically about Innistrad. I think spirits and vampires both have examples outside Innistrad.

And yeah, I'm looking for characters that are introduced as human and then later become a monster, so it has to be two separate cards.

Author:  Barinellos [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:56 pm ]
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Ragrio wrote:
I really hope the new legendary character returning, but now as a vampire, isn't Odric or Thalia. Wouldn't put it past them.

It'll probably be one of the throwaway trash legends from midnight hunt.
Unless we're going to go crazy and have the Gitrog Monster suddenly be a vampire

Author:  CuriousHeartless [ Tue Oct 26, 2021 9:51 pm ]
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General Hints


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Author:  Barinellos [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:26 am ]
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My big issue with kraken horror and tying it to worship is... They crapped out Ilharg, so I'm bloody well expecting god to mean god now.

Author:  EpicLevelCommoner [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 3:25 am ]
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I love that someone is becoming a vampire. For a world where all the main monster races were once human, I don't think we've seen any legendary transformations outside of zombies. I can't think of anyone who was printed as a human and later became a spirit or vampire or werewolf.


Technically Angels did it in Shadows, but agreed that more Human to Non-Human transformations would be neat.

Also Im betting Bloodthirst; its low hanging fruit, but its already been used in a Core Set, fits Vampires very well flavor wise, and I believe someone in WotC said it should have been a BR mechanic and not a RG one, which works since Vampires in Innistrad are BR (with some W it seems).

EDIT: Actually given the idea of witches/covens in the last set, I could also see Convoke as well for similar reasons, though mostly as a cult ritual thing.

Author:  CuriousHeartless [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:45 am ]
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Barinellos wrote:
My big issue with kraken horror and tying it to worship is... They crapped out Ilharg, so I'm bloody well expecting god to mean god now.


Well Ilharg was a god. The gods of the ocean cult may well *just* be ancient horrors of the depths

Author:  AzureShade [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:58 pm ]
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I wonder if the mirrored mechanic is something like Bushido but hitting blockers with -N/-N as a sort of evasion that is deathtouch-like and would feel like a vampire draining the blocker.

Author:  Barinellos [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:48 pm ]
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That would be very similar to flanking
Only difference is if it had a variable number attached to it.

Author:  AzureShade [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:15 pm ]
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Barinellos wrote:
That would be very similar to flanking
Only difference is if it had a variable number attached to it.
That and it would presumably get a more generic name that can be used more easily and not be as self referential.

Author:  Radical Jackal [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:15 pm ]
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• Legendary Creature – Spirit Warlock

Ehhh, ghost of a witch maybe? WU or UB maybe WB but I'm betting one of the first two. Flying, some sort of storm ability that'll either be annoying or aggressively medium.


I'm pretty sure Katilda, Dawnhart Prime had here soul leave her body before being killed by Olivia during the ritual.

Author:  Radical Jackal [ Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:21 pm ]
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Maybe we can get a mirrored fateful hour for finishing off opponents at 5 or less life although it probably isn't worth a name. Back in the day vampires cared about getting the opponent to 10 or less.

Author:  neru [ Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:13 pm ]
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We got a bunch of these. The returning faction mechanic is exploit. The mirror is of mentor in training.

Author:  CommanderJim [ Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:26 pm ]
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It did feel like people (myself included) were assuming too much that the returning faction mechanic would be for vampires, but it was hard to focus on anything else! Turns out there are a lot of faction mechanics, though.

Author:  Flopfoot [ Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:51 pm ]
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After ixalan, it’s hard not to see “vampires = criticism”. What have these guys got against weddings?

Author:  CuriousHeartless [ Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:51 pm ]
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It did feel like people (myself included) were assuming too much that the returning faction mechanic would be for vampires, but it was hard to focus on anything else! Turns out there are a lot of faction mechanics, though.


Also based on speculation I saw and gave, a bit too dedicated to the faction being one of the guilds, lol

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