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| Author: | Radical Jackal [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 2:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
  When I firsts glanced at the art of Brutal Cthathar when scrolling through spoilers I thought that hat was a canine head with its teeth bared looking to the left and I was like "Oh? A white werewolf soldier". I was right, but not for the right reason. |
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| Author: | EpicLevelCommoner [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Well this looks ridiculous ... Banisher Priest with built in recursion. Then again I may just be overly wary because of Huntmaster of the Fells |
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| Author: | Tevish Szat [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
EpicLevelCommoner wrote: Well this looks ridiculous ... Banisher Priest with built in recursion. Then again I may just be overly wary because of Huntmaster of the Fells Unless I'm quite mistaken, it's even stronger. It doesn't "Give back" the first victim when it wolfs out. |
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| Author: | EpicLevelCommoner [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Exactly; in fact as long as the player can keep alternating between Daybound and Nightbound while protecting this creature (which, between being white and having Ward on the Nightbound side, seems quite easy), the player can eventually exile any number of creatures the opponent controls indefinitely. |
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| Author: | Mown [ Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Tevish Szat wrote: EpicLevelCommoner wrote: Well this looks ridiculous ... Banisher Priest with built in recursion. Then again I may just be overly wary because of Huntmaster of the Fells Unless I'm quite mistaken, it's even stronger. It doesn't "Give back" the first victim when it wolfs out. It's still the same creature/object after it transforms, I don't see any reason as to why they would remain exiled. |
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| Author: | EpicLevelCommoner [ Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Oh is that what Tevesh meant? I mean I understood the whole same creature thing (mostly because it uses the this creature phrasing as opposed to directly refering by name), but I assumed Tevesh meant transforming into Nightbound form by wolf out. |
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| Author: | Flopfoot [ Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
The creatures remain exiled when this transforms, but not when this leaves the battlefield (regardless of what face it's on). I think everyone understands the card but not what each other is saying. What stands out about this card is it's able to have multiple creatures banished at once, unlike Banisher Priest |
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| Author: | Tevish Szat [ Fri Sep 10, 2021 4:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Flop has the right of it: I was commenting that this is stronger than "Banisher Priest with Recursion" because it can banish more than one target where a Banisher that recurs (whether from GY or by flickering) still only banishes one. |
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| Author: | EpicLevelCommoner [ Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
That's fair; I guess when I said with recursion, I should have been more clear on how exactly it was recursive--that is the repeated exiling of a creature. Trying to think of another existing example, though closest I can think of are Realm Razer and Worldgorger Dragon in that they exile multiple objects once whereas this exiles one object multiple times. |
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| Author: | neru [ Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Angel of Condemnation, Constable of the Realm, Grasping Giant, Trapjaw Tyrant |
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| Author: | Tevish Szat [ Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
Huh, Grasping Giant is a pretty neat inversion of Wall of Nets. Hadn't noticed it before. |
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| Author: | Flopfoot [ Sat Sep 11, 2021 11:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [IMH-ICD] Brutal Cathar |
And Admonition Angel |
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