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| Author: | Shadowchu [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
 Mind Reaver -  Creature - Human Wizard Heroic - Whenever you cast a spell that targets ~, exile the top three cards of target player's library. , Sacrifice ~: Counter target spell with the same name as a card exiled with ~.2/1 Source: https://twitter.com/Wizards_MagicEU/sta ... 2832573440 |
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| Author: | Wahooney [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Oh hey, Grimoire Thief is back. |
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| Author: | Yarium [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
That art... looks like he's thinking the person to death. "I'm giving you cancer!" 
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| Author: | Fenix [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Weird card. Sooooo much work for getting an effect out of him, and too many blue mana symbols. Doubt it'd be playable |
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| Author: | CommanderGreven [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Blue devotion will like this guy. Also he's a solid 2 drop that has the right kind of mill. He exiles instead of sends to the graveyard which I think helps a bit. |
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| Author: | Fenix [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
As the resident mill specialist™, let me tell you: this is not a mill card. |
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| Author: | Nekomata-sensei [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
This guy seems more like a minesweeper. He clears out parts of your opponent's future potential, but not quickly like a mill-type, instead, he does so more thoroughly, sending it to exile rather than graveyard, and prepares to sacrifice himself to stop a future bomb of a type he's dealt with already. I think he could help make a blue heroic deck with control elements work. |
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| Author: | Yarium [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
These discussions remind me a lot of Grimoire Thief. That card ended up being totally unused as well, and it was in an era when control decks were very hot. I can't see a deck targeting this card consistently enough to make the counter-spell, the milling, or the body into something relevant. |
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| Author: | felbatista [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
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| Author: | Nekomata-sensei [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Well, it's still a 2 power creature for 2 that has a heroic trigger that can aid an eventual counterspell and offers blue devotion. |
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| Author: | Jman22 [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
The discussion about this card art is more interesting than this card will ever be. |
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| Author: | LilyStorm [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
So everyone gets to see the exiled cards? |
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| Author: | Mister Degradation [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Ew. Also, I was secretly hoping that this was the return of Mindshrieker... I miss it so much. |
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| Author: | Glasir [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
LilyStorm wrote: So everyone gets to see the exiled cards? Yes. Unless a card specifies otherwise, exiled cards are exiled face-up. This card is bad and it should feel bad. If it used Inspired rather than Heroic it would at least be a cool Grimoire Thief knock-off. As is it is just terrible. |
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| Author: | Shadowchu [ Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Grimoire Thief is already bad so being a worse version of it is pretty pathetic. It's basically 2/1 no text for two in the rare slot of a set. |
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| Author: | Nekomata-sensei [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
Shadowchu wrote: Grimoire Thief is already bad so being a worse version of it is pretty pathetic. It's basically 2/1 no text for two in the rare slot of a set. Oh wow, I didn't realize it was a rare. Yeah, this is _really bad_ for a rare. I could have accepted it as an uncommon, but as a rare... 
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| Author: | Hello World [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
It's for block blue devotion, and is a piker.
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| Author: | Yarium [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
So every card goes in devotion? But without spells that target it also taking up space in Blue Devotion, the card is still dead. At it's VERY BEST, this card is a 5-mana, 2 card counter spell (2 to cast, 2 to activate, and at least a 1 mana targetting spell before hand). Grimoire Thief at least was 3 mana and 1 card to counter, and it was still a terrible card to try and use, and this is an order of magnitude worse.And what does a "piker" win against in Standard? It's outclassed by literally every other creature being used in standard, so it'll never survive combat, and even dies to Electrickery. It's not just bad, it's terribad. The only situation I can think of wanting this card is with the new Ephara's Enlightenment, since it can then hold the fort while you mill their deck without having to attack - but is then reliant on a steady stream of creatures... which should just win you the game anyways. And by the time you've exiled enough cards to make this guy's counterspell relevant, he'll be big enough that sacrificing him will often be a worse choice than just letting the spell resolve. |
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| Author: | LilyStorm [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
He said block not standard. |
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| Author: | The Butt [ Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: [BNG-ICD] Mindreaver |
This is actually nice. Again, y'all whiners. |
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