No Goblins Allowed :: DDF - You do the draft

Ultimate Price
Kolaghan Skirmisher best on-color card, nothing to draw me away from black
Swift Warkite
Silumgar Sorcerer
Anticipate looks like trouble ahead; but Hulk is so replacable
Sidisi's Faithful this one is underrated, IMO
Dutiful Attendant
Artful Maneuver hedging and hating at the same time
Monastery Loremaster already have an Attendant
Reduce in Stature
Silumgar Monument nice late pickup
Custodian of the Trove
Glint
Foul-Tongue Shriek
Swamp

Not a great pack one, definitely fighting for black, red is closed, blue seemed open. A lot depends on what we get in pack two. Hopefully, either blue or black will not be completely cut. There were at least two sweet build-arounds, but I went for value this time.

Ultimate Price
Defeat - Removal over Bear for me
Swift Warkite
Summit Prowler - between this and Sorcerer. We just picked a decent red and Prowler is pretty good.
Graceblade Artisan - Having just passed Sorcerer makes me hesitant to go into blue. A decent build around, Morph blocker, and Aura wearer wins it for me
Silkwrap - Removal, white looks kinda open
Deadly Wanderings - I've now passed some good blue, spellfist doesnt do it for me. Attendant or Wanderings, I figure I'll take the build around and see what I can do.
Artful Maneuver - Looks like I'm w/b seeing what I can get out of Wanderings
Dutiful Attendant
Herdchaser Dragon - I don't remember why I didnt take Charger
Silumgar Monument - Sure
Kindled Fury
Foul-Tongue Shriek
Swamp

White and Blue looked mostly open. Red was DONE, Green looked picked pretty clean too, although that Herdchaser seemed an anomaly. I agree that we were fighting for black.

Ultimate Price
Assault Formation because why not?
Swift Warkite
Silumgar Sorcerer
Enduring Victory. Something terrible is happening.
Silkwrap. Getting back on track.
Lightwalker. Ainok Survivalist is the best card in the pack, but I really want to cut a color.
Artful Maneuver
Monastery Loremaster
Sandstorm Charger
Silumgar Monument
Mind Rot
Glint
Foul-Tongue Shriek
Swamp

It's bad, but I think blue and white are the best colors for us (the late Herdchaser Dragon is scary, though). We might be able to splash black.

P1 Easy Price
P2 I guess I am not in the mood to force aggro, so Assault Formation
P3 Swift Warkite (never mind)
P4 huh. Best card is sorcerer. Prowler is fine, but Colossodon Yearling for me. I am OK splashing a 3rd color in a green base
P5 Segmented Krotiq (although bear is fine)
P6 Kolaghan Skirmisher (RB is not open)
P7 Ainok Survivalist (it's tech against Ass Formation as well!)
P8 Wow, that is the worst 1/2 pack I have ever seen. Orator of Ojutai?
P9 Dutiful Attendant (but artillerist is OK)
P10 Herdchaser Dragon good P10 pickup
P11 Vile of Dragonfire
P12 Custodian just barely over Mind Rot. You can usually get a mind rot if you need a playable.
P13 Fury
P14 Shriek

That was a miserable pack. White I guess was most open?

P1 Ultimate Price (obviously)
P2 Defeat
P3 Swift warkite
P4 Silumgar Sorcerer
P5 Enduring Victory
P6 Silk Wrap
P7 Deadly Wanderings (hedge bet as it looks like a spicy control deck in the makes)
P8 Learn from the past (spice is flowing)
P9 Dutiful Attendent (Probably should of took loremaster but i like your black better)
P10 Sandstorm Charger
p11 Silumgar Monument
p12 Custodian of the trove
p13 Glint
p14 Foul-Tongue

Did a lot of staying open in this pack. weren't losing much by taking some better cards in a vacuum rather than on color sub-par. Don't quite know where this draft is going. the 1st few picks of pack 2 should direct this deck to where it's going to be
4 color goody stuff maybe Grixis, or esper. lets open a Crux in P1-P3 and get passes a P2-P3 silumgar and a P5-P3 angler and win a couple games.

P1 Swift warkite
P2 Skywise Teachings
P3 Updraft elemental
P4 Rakshasha Gravecrawler
P5 Sandstorm Charger
P6 silumgar Butcher
P7 elusive spell fist
p8 negate
p9 reckless imp
p10 seismic rupture
p11 ojutai interceptor
p12 dirgur nemesis
p13 forest
p14 wandering tombshell
p15 Tapestry of ages

P1 Swift Warkite
P2 Seismic Rupture (nothing you have dies to it ..yet over SummitP)
P3 Sarkhans Rage
P4 Raksasha GraveCrawler
P5 Sarkhans Rage (if you went double rage i hope you enjoyed your 3-0)
P6 Silumgar Butcher
P7 Atarka Efreet (this was a gorgeous 1st half of pack 2)
P8 Fate Forgotten
P9 Reckless Imp
P10 Seismic Rupture (So you didn't P2-2 it so i guess you for sure took it now)
p11 Vial of dragonfire
P12 Volcanic Rush
P13 Dragon Eye Savant
P14 Wandering Tomshell
P15 Tapestry of Ages

Going on from my picks, which were:
Ultimate Price
Kolaghan Skirmisher best on-color card, nothing to draw me away from black
Swift Warkite
Silumgar Sorcerer
Anticipate looks like trouble ahead; but Hulk is so replacable
Sidisi's Faithful this one is underrated, IMO
Dutiful Attendant
Artful Maneuver hedging and hating at the same time
Monastery Loremaster already have an Attendant
Reduce in Stature
Silumgar Monument nice late pickup
Custodian of the Trove
Glint
Foul-Tongue Shriek
Swamp

Swift Warkite Well, not a great start.
Seismic Rupture To think they took the rare, and there is no playable blue or black card left!
Ojutai Interceptor Very close with Glee and Rage. Online, with my deck laid out in graphic form, I might go with Glee
Rakshasa Gravecaller Oh my. THREE great exploit cards in the same pack.
Sarkhan's Rage
Silumgar Butcher Seems like exploit is open, just some packs were bad for us.
Elusive Spellfist Over scribe. It blocks, it attacks.
Negate Carps are dime a dozen
Reckless Imp I was hoping to wheel this one
Dirgur Nemesis
Vial of Dragonfire can't take the Interceptor again

But this is beyond weird.
Wandering Tombshell
Forest
Wandering Tombshell
Tapestry of the Ages
Feels scrappy, in need of either some great blue or black cards, or fixing for the Warkites and Rage. Four red should be enough, since these are late-game spells.

Haven of the Spirit Dragon
Misthoof Kirin
Butcher's Glee
Rakshasa Gravecaller
Vial of Dragonfire
Lightwalker
Atarka Efreet
Sibsig Icebreakers
Reckless Imp
Dromoka's Gift
Stormrider Rig
Wandering Tombshell
Dragon's Eye Sentry
Wandering Tombshell
Tapestry of the Ages

Apparently I put on blinders to anything not w/b in pack 2...because those red picks were awesome...learning about our weaknesses :teach:

Edit: Yeah, and pack four I completely couldn't tell what was happening in the draft. Aven AND Gravecaller...that blew my mind.

P1 Aerie Bowmasters
P2 Gladewatcher
P3 Foul-Tongue Invocation because Glee nonbos with Ass Formation
P4 Rakshasha Gravecaller! Score
P5 Atarka Beastbreaker, man all the rages.
P6 Silumgar Butcher, but meh
P7 Press the Advantage just barely over splashed efreet
P8 Icebreakers, another miserable 1/2 pack
P9 Tread Upon
P10 Dromoka's Gift
P11 Ojutai Interceptor should not be in this pack
P12 TOMBSHELL BABY
P13 Wind
P14 Another Tombshell, although maindecking both is pretty lose, even with the ass formation.
P15 Tapestry

I think I have close to 20 playables in GB if you count both tombshells. No cobra though. I would be happy to cut tricks for Reach/Hunt the weak/Grim Content pack 3. Could splash the warkite. Need a couple Typhoid Rats and another finisher maybe... The black uncommon dragon?

Author:	POSValkir [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:59 am ]
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Ok, just like Ziehtnoba's! How would you draft the following? Pack 1 pick 1 Coat with Venom Kolaghan Aspirant Dromoka Dunecaster Dutiful Attendant Servant of the Scale Contradict Ainok Artillerist Monastery Loremaster Spidersilk Net Twin Bolt Salt Road Quartermasters Warbringer Ultimate Price Haven of the Spirit Dragon Island Pack 1 pick 2 Sandstorm Charger Kolaghan Skirmisher Kolaghan Aspirant Herald of Dromoka Segmented Krotiq Defeat Reduce in Stature Sandsteppe Scavenger Negate Herdchaser Dragon Stormwing Dragon Void Squall Assault Formation Swamp Pack 1 pick 3 Kolaghan Stormsinger Center Soul Dragon's Eye Sentry Guardian Shield-Bearer Vial of Dragonfire Butcher's Glee Ojutai Interceptor Sheltered Aerie Zephyr Scribe Swift Warkite Kolaghan Monument Silumgar Monument Swamp Pack 1 pick 4 Mind Rot Kindled Fury Aven Tactician Colossodon Yearling Gurmag Drowner Summit Prowler Naturalize Custodian of the Trove Silumgar's Scorn Dragon Hunter Silumgar Sorcerer Mountain Pack 1 pick 5 Marsh Hulk Kindled Fury Sandstorm Charger Enduring Victory Segmented Krotiq Glint Dragon-Scarred Bear Anticipate Display of Dominance Graceblade Artisan Plains Pack 1 pick 6 Impact Tremors Student of Ojutai Kolaghan Skirmisher Foul-Tongue Shriek Reduce in Stature Conifer Strider Sidisi's Faithful Sarkhan's Triumph Silkwrap Island Pack 1 pick 7 Lightwalker Dutiful Attendant Tormenting Voice Keeper of the Lens Elusive Spellfist Tread Upon Ainok Survivalist Deadly Wanderings Swamp Pack 1 pick 8 Artful Maneuver Revealing Wind Vandalize Fate Forgotten Ancient Carp Learn from the Past Orator of Ojutai Plains Pack 1 pick 9 Dromoka Dunecaster Dutiful Attendant Servant of the Scale Ainok Artillerist Monastery Loremaster Spidersilk Net Island Pack 1 pick 10 Sandstorm Charger Reduce in Stature Sandsteppe Scavenger Herdchaser Dragon Void Squall Swamp Pack 1 pick 11 Kolaghan Stormsinger Dragon's Eye Sentry Vial of Dragonfire Silumgar Monument Swamp Pack 1 pick 12 Mind Rot Custodian of the Trove Silumgar's Scorn Mountain Pack 1 pick 13 Kindled Fury Glint Plains Pack 1 pick 14 Foul-Tongue Shriek Island Pack 1 pick 15 Swamp

Author:	Zlehtnoba [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:58 am ]
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Pack 1 Ultimate Price Kolaghan Skirmisher best on-color card, nothing to draw me away from black Swift Warkite Silumgar Sorcerer Anticipate looks like trouble ahead; but Hulk is so replacable Sidisi's Faithful this one is underrated, IMO Dutiful Attendant Artful Maneuver hedging and hating at the same time Monastery Loremaster already have an Attendant Reduce in Stature Silumgar Monument nice late pickup Custodian of the Trove Glint Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp Not a great pack one, definitely fighting for black, red is closed, blue seemed open. A lot depends on what we get in pack two. Hopefully, either blue or black will not be completely cut. There were at least two sweet build-arounds, but I went for value this time.

Author:	POSValkir [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 5:51 am ]
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Pack 1 Ultimate Price Defeat - Removal over Bear for me Swift Warkite Summit Prowler - between this and Sorcerer. We just picked a decent red and Prowler is pretty good. Graceblade Artisan - Having just passed Sorcerer makes me hesitant to go into blue. A decent build around, Morph blocker, and Aura wearer wins it for me Silkwrap - Removal, white looks kinda open Deadly Wanderings - I've now passed some good blue, spellfist doesnt do it for me. Attendant or Wanderings, I figure I'll take the build around and see what I can do. Artful Maneuver - Looks like I'm w/b seeing what I can get out of Wanderings Dutiful Attendant Herdchaser Dragon - I don't remember why I didnt take Charger Silumgar Monument - Sure Kindled Fury Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp White and Blue looked mostly open. Red was DONE, Green looked picked pretty clean too, although that Herdchaser seemed an anomaly. I agree that we were fighting for black.

Author:	ajunior148 [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:44 am ]
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Pack1 Ultimate Price Assault Formation Ojutai Interceptor Silumgar Sorcerer Anticipate Sidisi's Faithful Ainok Survivalist Orator of Ojutai Monastery Loremaster Reduce in Stature Silumgar Monument Custodian of the Trove Glint Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp

Author:	Shazzeh [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:13 am ]
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Pack one Ultimate Price Assault Formation because why not? Swift Warkite Silumgar Sorcerer Enduring Victory. Something terrible is happening. Silkwrap. Getting back on track. Lightwalker. Ainok Survivalist is the best card in the pack, but I really want to cut a color. Artful Maneuver Monastery Loremaster Sandstorm Charger Silumgar Monument Mind Rot Glint Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp It's bad, but I think blue and white are the best colors for us (the late Herdchaser Dragon is scary, though). We might be able to splash black. These topics are fantastic.

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Author:	Zenbitz [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:08 am ]
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Spoiler P1 Easy Price P2 I guess I am not in the mood to force aggro, so Assault Formation P3 Swift Warkite (never mind) P4 huh. Best card is sorcerer. Prowler is fine, but Colossodon Yearling for me. I am OK splashing a 3rd color in a green base P5 Segmented Krotiq (although bear is fine) P6 Kolaghan Skirmisher (RB is not open) P7 Ainok Survivalist (it's tech against Ass Formation as well!) P8 Wow, that is the worst 1/2 pack I have ever seen. Orator of Ojutai? P9 Dutiful Attendant (but artillerist is OK) P10 Herdchaser Dragon good P10 pickup P11 Vile of Dragonfire P12 Custodian just barely over Mind Rot. You can usually get a mind rot if you need a playable. P13 Fury P14 Shriek That was a miserable pack. White I guess was most open?

Author:	Johnny [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:29 pm ]
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PACK 1 P1 Ultimate Price (obviously) P2 Defeat P3 Swift warkite P4 Silumgar Sorcerer P5 Enduring Victory P6 Silk Wrap P7 Deadly Wanderings (hedge bet as it looks like a spicy control deck in the makes) P8 Learn from the past (spice is flowing) P9 Dutiful Attendent (Probably should of took loremaster but i like your black better) P10 Sandstorm Charger p11 Silumgar Monument p12 Custodian of the trove p13 Glint p14 Foul-Tongue Did a lot of staying open in this pack. weren't losing much by taking some better cards in a vacuum rather than on color sub-par. Don't quite know where this draft is going. the 1st few picks of pack 2 should direct this deck to where it's going to be 4 color goody stuff maybe Grixis, or esper. lets open a Crux in P1-P3 and get passes a P2-P3 silumgar and a P5-P3 angler and win a couple games.

Author:	Johnny [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:40 pm ]
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ajunior148 wrote: Pack1 Ultimate Price Assault Formation Ojutai Interceptor Silumgar Sorcerer Anticipate Sidisi's Faithful Ainok Survivalist Orator of Ojutai Monastery Loremaster Reduce in Stature Silumgar Monument Custodian of the Trove Glint Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp I like your draft the best so far, as your looking like you should be able to build a decent Ass Form deck. with splash black for price, maybe Green/blue, yearlings, updrafts, and Faithfuls. Glints and Shape the sands as tricks, Orator as well since the pick 6 silkwrap was the biggest signal i seen that white is open

Author:	POSValkir [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:50 pm ]
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I may not have time tomorrow, so here's the next pack. You can build off my picks, or build off your own! Good Luck! Pack 2 pick 1 Volcanic Rush Dromoka Warrior Herald of Dromoka Aerie Bowmasters Tormenting Voice Keeper of the Lens Reckless Imp Haven of the Spirit Dragon Mystic Meditation Tread Upon Swift Warkite Atarka Pummeler Atarka Monument Commune with Lava Forest Pack 2 pick 2 Lightwalker Wandering Tombshell Volcanic Rush Dromoka Warrior Glade Watcher Dirgur Nemesis Fate Forgotten Misthoof Kirin Taigam's Strike Summit Prowler Dromoka's Gift Seismic Rupture Skywise Teachings Island Pack 2 pick 3 Aven Tactician Dragon's Eye Sentry Guardian Shield-Bearer Sarkhan's Rage Vial of Dragonfire Butcher's Glee Ojutai Interceptor Ainok Artillerist Updraft Elemental Inspiring Call Stormrider Rig Foul-Tongue Invocation Island Pack 2 pick 4 Volcanic Rush Dromoka Warrior Wandering Tombshell Sabertooth Outrider Gurmag Drowner Colossodon Yearling Dirgur Nemesis Vulturous Aven Misthoof Kirin Rakshasa Gravecaller Press the Advantage Swamp Pack 2 pick 5 Hardened Berserker Sandstorm Charger Dragon's Eye Sentry Revealing Wind Sarkhan's Rage Vial of Dragonfire Glint Atarka Beastbreaker Mystic Meditation Lightning Berserker Forest Pack 2 pick 6 Sibsig Icebreakers Lightwalker Wandering Tombshell Gurmag Drowner Anticipate Taigam's Strike Silumgar Butcher Battle Mastery Living Lore Mountain Pack 2 pick 7 Volcanic Rush Wandering Tombshell Guardian Shield-Bearer Atarka Efreet Elusive Spellfist Zephyr Scribe Press the Advantage Tapestry of the Ages Forest Pack 2 pick 8 Sibsig Icebreakers Artful Maneuver Revealing Wind Vandalize Fate Forgotten Ancient Carp Negate Plains Pack 2 pick 9 Volcanic Rush Tormenting Voice Keeper of the Lens Reckless Imp Tread Upon Commune with Lava Forest Pack 2 pick 10 Volcanic Rush Dirgur Nemesis Fate Forgotten Dromoka's Gift Seismic Rupture Island Pack 2 pick 11 Dragon's Eye Sentry Vial of Dragonfire Ojutai Interceptor Stormrider Rig Island Pack 2 pick 12 Volcanic Rush Wandering Tombshell Dirgur Nemesis Swamp Pack 2 pick 13 Dragon's Eye Sentry Revealing Wind Forest Pack 2 pick 14 Wandering Tombshell Mountain Pack 2 pick 15 Tapestry of the Ages

Author:	Johnny [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:37 pm ]
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PACK 1 P1 Ultimate Price (obviously) P2 Defeat P3 Swift warkite P4 Silumgar Sorcerer P5 Enduring Victory P6 Silk Wrap P7 Deadly Wanderings (hedge bet as it looks like a spicy control deck in the makes) P8 Learn from the past (spice is flowing) P9 Dutiful Attendent (Probably should of took loremaster but i like your black better) P10 Sandstorm Charger p11 Silumgar Monument p12 Custodian of the trove p13 Glint p14 Foul-Tongue Did a lot of staying open in this pack. weren't losing much by taking some better cards in a vacuum rather than on color sub-par. Don't quite know where this draft is going. the 1st few picks of pack 2 should direct this deck to where it's going to be 4 color goody stuff maybe Grixis, or esper. lets open a Crux in P1-P3 and get passes a P2-P3 silumgar and a P5-P3 angler and win a couple games. My Pack 2 P1 Swift warkite P2 Skywise Teachings P3 Updraft elemental P4 Rakshasha Gravecrawler P5 Sandstorm Charger P6 silumgar Butcher P7 elusive spell fist p8 negate p9 reckless imp p10 seismic rupture p11 ojutai interceptor p12 dirgur nemesis p13 forest p14 wandering tombshell p15 Tapestry of ages your pack 2 P1 Swift Warkite P2 Seismic Rupture (nothing you have dies to it ..yet over SummitP) P3 Sarkhans Rage P4 Raksasha GraveCrawler P5 Sarkhans Rage (if you went double rage i hope you enjoyed your 3-0) P6 Silumgar Butcher P7 Atarka Efreet (this was a gorgeous 1st half of pack 2) P8 Fate Forgotten P9 Reckless Imp P10 Seismic Rupture (So you didn't P2-2 it so i guess you for sure took it now) p11 Vial of dragonfire P12 Volcanic Rush P13 Dragon Eye Savant P14 Wandering Tomshell P15 Tapestry of Ages

Author:	Zlehtnoba [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:41 pm ]
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Pack 2 Going on from my picks, which were: Ultimate Price Kolaghan Skirmisher best on-color card, nothing to draw me away from black Swift Warkite Silumgar Sorcerer Anticipate looks like trouble ahead; but Hulk is so replacable Sidisi's Faithful this one is underrated, IMO Dutiful Attendant Artful Maneuver hedging and hating at the same time Monastery Loremaster already have an Attendant Reduce in Stature Silumgar Monument nice late pickup Custodian of the Trove Glint Foul-Tongue Shriek Swamp Swift Warkite Well, not a great start. Seismic Rupture To think they took the rare, and there is no playable blue or black card left! Ojutai Interceptor Very close with Glee and Rage. Online, with my deck laid out in graphic form, I might go with Glee Rakshasa Gravecaller Oh my. THREE great exploit cards in the same pack. Sarkhan's Rage Silumgar Butcher Seems like exploit is open, just some packs were bad for us. Elusive Spellfist Over scribe. It blocks, it attacks. Negate Carps are dime a dozen Reckless Imp I was hoping to wheel this one Dirgur Nemesis Vial of Dragonfire can't take the Interceptor again But this is beyond weird. Wandering Tombshell Forest Wandering Tombshell Tapestry of the Ages Feels scrappy, in need of either some great blue or black cards, or fixing for the Warkites and Rage. Four red should be enough, since these are late-game spells.

Author:	POSValkir [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:49 pm ]
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lol Johnny...you're makin me feel bad Pack 2 Haven of the Spirit Dragon Misthoof Kirin Butcher's Glee Rakshasa Gravecaller Vial of Dragonfire Lightwalker Atarka Efreet Sibsig Icebreakers Reckless Imp Dromoka's Gift Stormrider Rig Wandering Tombshell Dragon's Eye Sentry Wandering Tombshell Tapestry of the Ages Apparently I put on blinders to anything not w/b in pack 2...because those red picks were awesome...learning about our weaknesses Edit: Yeah, and pack four I completely couldn't tell what was happening in the draft. Aven AND Gravecaller...that blew my mind.

Author:	Zenbitz [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:41 pm ]
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POSValkir, your Pack 1 was a mess so these are mine: Spoiler P1 Aerie Bowmasters P2 Gladewatcher P3 Foul-Tongue Invocation because Glee nonbos with Ass Formation P4 Rakshasha Gravecaller! Score P5 Atarka Beastbreaker, man all the rages. P6 Silumgar Butcher, but meh P7 Press the Advantage just barely over splashed efreet P8 Icebreakers, another miserable 1/2 pack P9 Tread Upon P10 Dromoka's Gift P11 Ojutai Interceptor should not be in this pack P12 TOMBSHELL BABY P13 Wind P14 Another Tombshell, although maindecking both is pretty lose, even with the ass formation. P15 Tapestry I think I have close to 20 playables in GB if you count both tombshells. No cobra though. I would be happy to cut tricks for Reach/Hunt the weak/Grim Content pack 3. Could splash the warkite. Need a couple Typhoid Rats and another finisher maybe... The black uncommon dragon? These ARE fun. Almost makes me want to draft on MTGO. Almost.

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