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Rise of the Eldrazi draft!
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Author:  CommanderGreven [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:23 am ]
Post subject:  Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

With the completion of the Zendiwake draft I've decided to start up a RoE draft!

Pack 1:

Lightmine Field
Artisan of Kozilek
Pawn of Ulamog
Luminous Wake
Bala Ged Scorpion
Lagac Lizard
Vent Sentinel
Aura Finesse
Living Destiny
Evolving Wilds
Champion's Drake
Makindi Griffin
Fissure Vent
Tajuru Preserver FOIL

Author:  LilyStorm [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 11:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Artisan.

Author:  Zenbitz [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:22 pm ]
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I have heard that this is the slowest set. I had to look it up but it appears that Artisan is the best of the non-rare Eldrazi.

Preserver seems pretty useful though. Lightmine field might work if we have a gajillion spawn tokens.

Author:  LilyStorm [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 5:08 pm ]
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Zenbitz wrote:
I have heard that this is the slowest set. I had to look it up but it appears that Artisan is the best of the non-rare Eldrazi.

Preserver seems pretty useful though. Lightmine field might work if we have a gajillion spawn tokens.


Preserver stops anhillator but then dies to chumping and removal. Read field again, it doesn't do what you think. And yes the format is super slow, has big splashy spells, good ramp and some neat little guys. I love drafting thus set. Artisan isn't just one of the best non rares it's one of the best eldrazi.

Author:  Glasir [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:15 pm ]
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This was one of my favorite draft formats. :)

Artisan is good if you live long enough to cast him.
Pawn of Ulamog is quite good.
Scorpion does work -- remember, Walls was a theme -- but isn't first-pickable.
Vent Sentinel is a win condition in the Wall deck.
Champion's Drake is very good if you get a Venerated Teacher or two.

I'd say grab the Drake and force levelers. It's the only playable blue card in the pack, it's the only Level card in the pack, and we'll put the next couple of people in archetypes we don't compete with for cards.

Author:  LilyStorm [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:43 pm ]
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Levelers are spread across too many colors I think it would be a mistake. If we force and fail to get fixing we will just flop is there even fixing in roe?

Author:  Freddeh [ Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:56 pm ]
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Artisan is roughly the best card in a pretty weak pack.

Drake is probably a close second though, because the aggro level up flyer deck is pretty strong in this slow format.

I think Artisan is the pick here though, because it leaves us a bit more open color-wise, and is a really good card.

Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:28 am ]
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LilyStorm wrote:
Levelers are spread across too many colors I think it would be a mistake. If we force and fail to get fixing we will just flop is there even fixing in roe?


Both Artisan and Drake have the same problems. If we force and fail, they are dead. Blue is actually the best color for levelers, it can pair with either white or black. I agree that if we want levelers, we should stick to two colors.

Author:  CommanderGreven [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 10:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Pack 1:

Artisan of Kozilek

Next...

Brimstone Mage
Unified Will
Mammoth Umbra
Frostwind Invoker
Shrivel
Soul's Attendant
Stomper Cub
Heat Ray
Kor Line-Slinger
Nighthaze
Kozilek's Predator
Lagac Lizard
Hand of Emrakul

Author:  Zenbitz [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Hand? What is the proper number of gynourmous eldrazi? 3? 4?

Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 4:12 pm ]
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Kozilek's predator

We went the big guys route, we need acceleration. Hand is actually a bad Eldrazi, low both on power and annihilation.

Author:  Glasir [ Tue Dec 24, 2013 6:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Since we took the Artisan, the pick here is the Predator.

This pack is pretty good all-around though. Predator, Heat Ray, Brimstone, and Umbra are all quite good, and a few more cards are playable.

Author:  Freddeh [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:28 am ]
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Predator is pretty solid here.

Author:  CommanderGreven [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Pack 1:

Artisan of Kozilek
Kozilek's Predator

Next...

Tuktuk the Explorer
Survival Cache
Vendetta
Snake Umbra
Champion's Drake
Ondu Giant
Bloodthrone Vampire
Halimar Wavewatch
Kiln fiend
Caravan Escort
Heat Ray
Bala Ged Scorpion FOIL

Author:  Cato [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 2:02 pm ]
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I kinda want to stay on color and take Ondu Giant, even if it isn't the best card in the pack.

Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Wed Dec 25, 2013 3:39 pm ]
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Vendetta

For me, it's too early to marry a color and pick an OK card over prime removal.

Author:  Jman22 [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:52 am ]
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Yep, def want that vendetta that'll deal you 8 damage.

That was sarcasm. Think it is Ondu Giant, unless tuktuk token is indestructible, then you take him.

Really wish we had forced walls. That was my pet deck.

Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:12 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Jman22 wrote:
Yep, def want that vendetta that'll deal you 8 damage.

That was sarcasm. Think it is Ondu Giant, unless tuktuk token is indestructible, then you take him.

Really wish we had forced walls. That was my pet deck.


IIRC, Vendetta is the best removal in this block. When it's eight damage or lose the game, you take eight damage. More so if the other guy spent all his resources to play that Eldrazi, which then dies at instant speed and leaves him with nothing.

Ondu Giant is a legitimate pick, no problems if we end up with that. You just need a better reason than saying "Vendetta is bad", because that is not true.

Author:  CommanderGreven [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Rise of the Eldrazi draft!

Pack 1:

Artisan of Kozilek
Kozilek's Predator
Ondu Giant

Next...

Thought Gorger
Jaddi Lifestrider
Merfolk Skyscout
Cadaver Imp
Spider Umbra
Caravan Escort
Jwari Scuttler
Brood Birthing
Reinforced Bulwark
Battle Rampart
Surreal Memoir FOIL

Author:  LilyStorm [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:23 pm ]
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Brood birthing or maybe a wall or idunno.

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