No Goblins Allowed :: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool

Well you need 4 red sources by turn 4, which means playing at least 9 mountains (I would say). But you need white mana by turn 1, which means you need to play 9 plains. You also need to play a land every turn until turn 5 if you're going to run a crapton of 5-drops the way the RW deck above does. Almost a third of the spells are over 4 mana, which means you'll have a lot of dead draws. It just looks like one of those decks that, when the cards line up and you curve out, it's unstoppable, but if you don't hit your mana you blame your draws.

The BW deck, on the other hand, has 10 black sources, 9 white sources, 3 red sources, and a Pilgrim's Eye to get whatever color we need or help us hit a land drop. It also curves out, and has 6 removal spells, and a bunch of evasion too. (Yes, I'm counting the Evolving Wilds as a source of each color, but that's fine.)

Author:	Flyheight [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:03 pm ]
Post subject:	[BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
Fun exercise from the professor. The Pool W 1 x Kitesail Scout 2 x Cliffside Lookout 1 x Serene Steward 1 x Felidar Cub 1 x Kor Castigator 1 x Shadow Glider 1 x Unified Front 1 x Ghostly Sentinel 1 x Emeria Shepherd 1 x Tandem Tactics 1 x Gideon's Reproach 1 x Sheer Drop 1 x Retreat to Emeria 1 x Smite the Monstrous U 1 x Salvage Drone 1 x Eldrazi Skyspawner 1 x Benthic Infiltrator 1 x Murk Strider 1 x Incubator Drone 1 x Wave-Wing Elemental 1 x Dispel 1 x Clutch of Currents 1 x Rush of Ice 1 x Tightening Coils 1 x Horribly Awry 1 x Retreat to coralhelm 1 x Spell Shrivel 1 x Brilliant Spectrum 1 x Prism Array 1 x Ugin's Insight B 1 x Carrier Thrall 1 x Culling Drone 1 x Nirkana Assassin 1 x Voracious Null 1 x Silent Skimmer 1 x Mind Raker 1 x Bloodbond Vampire 1 x Geyserfield Stalker 1 x Defiant Bloodlord 1 x Altar's Reap 1 x Complete Disregard 1 x Grip of Desolation 1 x Grave Birthing 1 x Swarm Surge R 2 x Vestige of Emrakul 1 x Ondu Champion 1 x Chasm Guide 2 x Shatterskull Recruit 1 x Outnumber 3 x Goblin War Paint 1 x Touch of the Void 1 x Crumble to Dust 1 x Turn Against 1 x Stonefury G 2 x Oran-Rief Invoker 1 x Snapping Gnarlid 1 x Tajuru Stalwart 1 x Call the Scions 1 x Broodhunter Wurm 1 x Territorial Baloth 1 x Brood Monitor 1 x Sylvan Scrying 1 x Seek the Wilds 1 x Natural Connection Land 1 x Mortuary Mire 1 x Fertile Thicket 1 x Skyline Cascade 1 x Blighted Fen 1 x Blighted Cataract 1 x Evolving Wilds 1 x Smoldering Marsh 1 x Lumbering Falls 1 x Shambling Vent C 1 x Pilgrim's Eye 1 x Kozilek's Channeler 1 x Ruin Processor 1 x Eldrazi Devastator Multi 1 x Drana's Emissary 1 x Resolute Blademaster My take on the pool overall: White has some fliers, some great removal spells, and the most disgusting bomb rare in the set for limited. Blue is kinda eh. Black has some ok creatures and 2 kill spells. Red has some nice medium sized creatures, but no small ones, and one or two removal spells. Green has a solid creature curve and it's spells are all color fixers. Your colorless cards are all playable except for ruin processor. Resolute blademaster is nuts. I can almost see a case for a green based 5-color good stuff, but I believe the clear winner here is the R/W Ally deck. My List: Creatures (15): 1 x Kitesail Scout 2 x Cliffside Lookout 1 x Felidar Cub 1 x Kor Castigator 1 x Shadow Glider 2 x Vestige of Emrakul 1 x Ondu Champion 1 x Chasm Guide 2 x Shatterskull Recruit 1 x Ghostly Sentinel 1 x Resolute Blademaster 1 x Emeria Shepherd Non-Creatures (8): 2 x Goblin War Paint 1 x Gideon's Reproach 1 x Touch of the Void 1 x Sheer Drop 1 x Retreat to Emeria 1 x Turn Against 1 x Stonefury Lands (17): 1 x Mortuary Mire 1 x Evolving Wilds 8 x Mountain 7 x Plains

Author:	rstnme [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
I think you play a BW deck that splashes red for doublestrike dude. The WR deck's mana isn't good at all. Spoiler 2 x Cliffside Lookout 1 x Culling Drone 1 x Kor Castigator 1 x Carrier Thrall 1 x Felidar Cub 1 x Drana's Emissary 1 x Pilgrim's Eye 1 x Shadow Glider 1 x Nirkana Assassin 1 x Voracious Null 1 x Silent Skimmer 1 x Mind Raker 1 x Ghostly Sentinel 1 x Resolute Blademaster 1 x Emeria Shepherd 1 x Gideon's Reproach 1 x Sheer Drop 1 x Retreat to Emeria 1 x Smite the Monstrous 1 x Complete Disregard 1 x Grip of Desolation 1 x Mortuary Mire 1 x Blighted Fen 1 x Evolving Wilds 1 x Smoldering Marsh 1 x Shambling Vent 5 x Swamp 7 x Plains 1 x Mountain EDIT: fixed some typos.

Author:	Flopfoot [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
What do you mean rstnme? It's a 2 color deck, how can the mana be bad?

Author:	rstnme [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
Well you need 4 red sources by turn 4, which means playing at least 9 mountains (I would say). But you need white mana by turn 1, which means you need to play 9 plains. You also need to play a land every turn until turn 5 if you're going to run a crapton of 5-drops the way the RW deck above does. Almost a third of the spells are over 4 mana, which means you'll have a lot of dead draws. It just looks like one of those decks that, when the cards line up and you curve out, it's unstoppable, but if you don't hit your mana you blame your draws. The BW deck, on the other hand, has 10 black sources, 9 white sources, 3 red sources, and a Pilgrim's Eye to get whatever color we need or help us hit a land drop. It also curves out, and has 6 removal spells, and a bunch of evasion too. (Yes, I'm counting the Evolving Wilds as a source of each color, but that's fine.)

Author:	Flyheight [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
rstnme wrote: Well you need 4 red sources by turn 4, which means playing at least 9 mountains (I would say). But you need white mana by turn 1, which means you need to play 9 plains. You also need to play a land every turn until turn 5 if you're going to run a crapton of 5-drops the way the RW deck above does. Almost a third of the spells are over 4 mana, which means you'll have a lot of dead draws. It just looks like one of those decks that, when the cards line up and you curve out, it's unstoppable, but if you don't hit your mana you blame your draws. The BW deck, on the other hand, has 10 black sources, 9 white sources, 3 red sources, and a Pilgrim's Eye to get whatever color we need or help us hit a land drop. It also curves out, and has 6 removal spells, and a bunch of evasion too. (Yes, I'm counting the Evolving Wilds as a source of each color, but that's fine.) I don't see where you're getting 4 red sources by turn 4, I presume you meant to say 2? The R/W deck also has access to the Evolving Wilds so it can add 1 to each of it's basic land color counts. If you end up that hard up for white sources you can cut the Mortuary Mire for another plains. As for the funky curve you do have a point there, however with BFZ format the smaller ground creatures get outclassed too quickly. Not saying W/R is necessarily right (I haven't played enough of this format to make that call), just that I don't think it's missing as much as you might think. That being said, I really do love your B/W mana base, it's nuts. Red also it's own share of evasion too: 2 menace creatures, 2 trample creatures, and 1 team trample creature. Admittedly not as good as flying, but still not vanilla.

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Author:	Zenbitz [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: [BFZ Sealed] Tolarian Community College sealed pool
Kinda like UG here. Removal is for the gutless. Or you could splash B or W I guess. Spoiler 2 x Oran-Rief Invoker 1 x Snapping Gnarlid 1 x Eldrazi Skyspawner 1 x Benthic Infiltrator 1 x Murk Strider 1 x Pilgrim's Eye 1 x Call the Scions 1 x Incubator Drone 1 x Kozilek's Channeler 1 x Broodhunter Wurm 1 x Territorial Baloth 1 x Wave-Wing Elemental 1 x Brood Monitor 1 x Ruin Processor 1 x Eldrazi Devastator 1 x Clutch of Currents 1 x Rush of Ice 1 x Tightening Coils 1 x Horribly Awry 1 x Spell Shrivel 1 x Ugin's Insight 1 x Fertile Thicket 1 x Skyline Cascade 1 x Blighted Cataract 1 x Evolving Wilds 1 x Lumbering Falls 7 x Forest 6 x Island

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