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[BFZ] Top 5 Black Commons
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Author:  Zenbitz [ Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:47 pm ]
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Complete Disregard
Bone Splinters
Kalastria Nightwatch
Geyserfield Stalker
Demon's Grasp

Bunch of ingest cards that look OK and processors. They might just be straight up better than the 5 drops above.

Kalastria Healer looks really good in allies but not good enough to pick highly.
Author:  cable101 [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 2:38 am ]
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I'll echo that Top 5, but Black's commons are quite unimpressive.
Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:01 am ]
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Bone Splinters
Complete Disregard
Altar's Reap
Culling Drone
Silent Skimmer

As you can see, I'm counting on two things: there will be drones to sacrifice, and bears will not be irrelevant. That's way I don't expect the menace guy to be very dangerous.

I think I'm going to like this set. I really can't tell, just from looking at commons, what will the good decks be. Which probably means, draft around the good uncommons/rares you open. Also, Allies seem to be at least three colors, so maybe they should be paired with converge?
Author:  Jman22 [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:42 am ]
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Demon's Grasp
Silent Skimmer
Skitterskin
Swarn Surge
Bone Splinters

Black seems really weak without a way to reliably gain life, like Retreat to Hagra or Vampiric Rites. It is definitely the gimmick color of the set.
Author:  felbatista [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:47 am ]
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1. Bone Splinters
2. Complete Disregard
3. Mortuary Mire
4. Demon's Grasp
5. Culling Drone

I might be overvaluing Mire, but it looks insane to me. Choosing the last one was hard, the quality drops significantly.
Author:  felbatista [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:48 am ]
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Jman22 wrote:
Demon's Grasp
Silent Skimmer
Skitterskin
Swarn Surge
Bone Splinters

Black seems really weak without a way to reliably gain life, like Retreat to Hagra or Vampiric Rites. It is definitely the gimmick color of the set.


Skitterskin is an Uncommon.
Author:  Jman22 [ Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:56 am ]
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felbatista wrote:
Jman22 wrote:
Demon's Grasp
Silent Skimmer
Skitterskin
Swarn Surge
Bone Splinters

Black seems really weak without a way to reliably gain life, like Retreat to Hagra or Vampiric Rites. It is definitely the gimmick color of the set.


Skitterskin is an Uncommon.


I guess Complete Disregard is number 5 then. Really don't like the card a ton.
Black is shallow to me. Bleh.
Author:  Flopfoot [ Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:03 pm ]
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Kalastria healer - I've first picked it and won, and I've played against a deck that had 4 of them that used both the ally and the life gain synergy.

Demons grasp - expensive but sometimes you really need to kill something.

Swarm surge - I haven't actually seen it cast but with a big pile of scions it should be good.

Bone Splinters - Yep

Dutiful return - should be better than usual with giant eldrazi to recur
Author:  Jman22 [ Tue Sep 29, 2015 10:36 pm ]
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I didn't realize Swarm Surge was a sorcery until recently. I like it a lot less now.
Author:  Zenbitz [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:43 am ]
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Sludge Crawler is actually good. I actually haven't seen anyone able to play Stalker yet... there are a couple BR aggro cards.
I think Silent Skimmer is better than stalker too, and at least as good as Nightwatch. You are going to have to main deck a copy of bone splinters unless you are in white I think.
Author:  rstnme [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:12 pm ]
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there's a swarm surge deck i almost played this weekend. i think you need 3 though.
Author:  Flopfoot [ Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:43 pm ]
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I've never played silent skimmer. A 4 mana angelic wall seems particularly bad in this format, so unless you're devoid aggro it has no place.
Author:  Jman22 [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:07 am ]
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It is a 4 mana 2/4 when it attacks. And there isn't much flying in the format, so having an Angelic wall is solid in a lot of decks.
Author:  rstnme [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:16 am ]
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Skimmer won me a lot of games in the prerelease. 2 unblock able damage every turn is good in a format of 8 mana spells.
Author:  Zlehtnoba [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:47 pm ]
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Flopfoot wrote:
I've never played silent skimmer. A 4 mana angelic wall seems particularly bad in this format, so unless you're devoid aggro it has no place.


Skimmer is a control card. It blocks, and then it becomes an unblockable threat. I think it's way too slow for aggro.
Author:  Zenbitz [ Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:10 pm ]
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Quote:
And there isn't much flying in the format


It has almost the same number of common & uncommon fliers as Origins (not counting the thopter generation). But it's certainly more IMPORTANT in this format.
Author:  Dr_Demento [ Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:09 am ]
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I think you guys are underrating Voracious Null. You don't want a lot of him, but the ability to go from wide to tall is often quite useful.
Author:  Johnny [ Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:33 am ]
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Spoiler
Author:  Zenbitz [ Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:59 pm ]
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Null I think looks bad because we had a season of Nantuko Husk. But I have yet to see someone really pull off a sacrifice deck.
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