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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:46 pm 
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It's interesting to me how [b]vaporkin[\b] is so much better than, say, blood toll harpy.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:49 pm 
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it makes a 2 land opening hand playable

blood toll harpy is also good

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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I really don't know. None are good, but none are stupidly bad. They're all mediocre. I guess that means the right choice is Gainsay again.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 9:58 am 
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I kind of like Fleshmad Steed as a random bear. His drawback is almost never relevant. I really don't care about the hippocamp.


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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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I really lik hippocamp. Flash blocker and sometimes two blockers. Can untap singer for extra Hax.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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I'll just take the gainsay. Someone else is obviously in blue, so eff 'em. Double gainsay all the way.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 11:33 am 
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hippocamp

we've already got 3 two drops and the fleshmad steed rarely makes the deck

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I'll just take the gainsay. Someone else is obviously in blue, so eff 'em. Double gainsay all the way.


How do we know this? I wasn't paying attention.

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I'll just take the gainsay. Someone else is obviously in blue, so eff 'em. Double gainsay all the way.


How do we know this? I wasn't paying attention.


We have 4 blue cards, of which 2 are BU? The power of inference!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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I'll just take the gainsay. Someone else is obviously in blue, so eff 'em. Double gainsay all the way.

How do we know this? I wasn't paying attention.

Really not hard to guess that at least one person is drafting mainly blue out of an 8 man draft.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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I'll just take the gainsay. Someone else is obviously in blue, so eff 'em. Double gainsay all the way.


How do we know this? I wasn't paying attention.


We have 4 blue cards, of which 2 are BU? The power of inference!!!


Explain further I don't understand.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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Well, although we've seen some blue cards come our way, there's not an overwhelming amount of blue coming our way. As such, it's safe to assume that some blue cards are being taken by other players. Since this is an 8-person draft pod, and we're still seeing some blue (though not great blue), and very little blue removal, then it's safe to assume that at least 1 other person at the table is mainly blue, or up to 3 other people are blue-splash for the Voyage's Ends and Griptides that should have appeared by this point. Most likely is 1 other person, likely directly opposite of us, is mainly blue, and 1 other person somewhere else is blue splash.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:51 pm 
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Blue cards we saw pack 1:

Mnemonic Wall
Triton Shorethief
Coastline Chimera
Thassa's Bounty
Coastline Chimera
Vaporkin
Aqueous Form
Lost in a Labyrinth
Aqueous Form

No blue cards in pick 6.

The cards that wheeled in pack 1:

Gainsay
2 Chimeras
Triton Shorethief

Someone's soaking up a lot of blue directly to our right. Gainsay would shut them down pretty well.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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Oooh! Makes sense. Hopefully it's not just bad packs with no blue :o

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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Not totally unreasonable argument for gainsay. Horse and Horse fish are both on the low end of playable.

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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LilyStorm wrote:
Oooh! Makes sense. Hopefully it's not just bad packs with no blue :o

One pack with no blue in it can be chalked off as being a dry pack for blue. A whole draft with little blue means at least one person is cutting it heavily (or many people are splashing it, but that's rare).

Also, as rstnme pointed out, it's not just that we didn't see much blue, it's also that very little of the blue we did see wheeled.


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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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is blue good in theros?

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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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Whats wrong with the hippocamp? It seems like a pretty good trick for our deck...


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 Post subject: Re: Theros draft 1!
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Matt Holck wrote:
is blue good in theros?


I think so. I love playing Ux control in draft. Done well with UG and UB


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