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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:46 pm 
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Wall. I hate that stupid wall. It really seems like it should be cheaper, or have flying/reach or have some huge toughness.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:42 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:54 pm 
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Zenbitz wrote:
Wall. I hate that stupid wall. It really seems like it should be cheaper, or have flying/reach or have some huge toughness.

The problem is the format more than the wall itself. The problem is that the format isn't very blocker friendly and that alot of your non ccreature spells are taken up by auras rather than instants and sorceries.

The first time around, I really liked that wall.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:33 am 
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Wall over last breath?
I don't feel that last breath at this point of the draft is enough to signal that white is open and we could change color.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:07 am 
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I once had an opponent Last Breath my Akroan Horse at a PTQ. That felt awesome. :-/

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:52 am 
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rstnme wrote:
I once had an opponent Last Breath my Akroan Horse at a PTQ. That felt awesome. :-/

One of my friends hates the horse with an irrational passion because 4 of the 5 times he played it at the pre-release, it got last breath'd.

Last breath: the ultimate answer to trojan horses.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:10 am 
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(FYI: Normally at this point you can just post the contents of the remaining packs, as there's so little chance of them affecting things, and we get through it faster)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 12:56 pm 
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I will allow for the fact that mnemonic wall is useful is some other format. Maybe that format is even block Theros draft... But if I draft a wall I am looking for something like Hover Barrier or Fog Bank.

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Hate draft Commune.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:14 pm 
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Zenbitz wrote:
I will allow for the fact that mnemonic wall is useful is some other format. Maybe that format is even block Theros draft... But if I draft a wall I am looking for something like Hover Barrier or Fog Bank.

You're not drafting a wall, you're drafting a regrowth for instants/sorceries that leaves behind a body. You're drafting card advantage. It basically has the same role as Archaeomancer in M14. No one drafted him because they wanted a 1/2 body.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:24 pm 
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Filobel wrote:
You're not drafting a wall, you're drafting a regrowth for instants/sorceries that leaves behind a body. You're drafting card advantage. It basically has the same role as Archaeomancer in M14. No one drafted him because they wanted a 1/2 body.


Unfortunately, the card suffers a lot in the current format - but I have high hopes for it as the next sets are released! Mnemonic Wall is fantastic when you have removal and the time to reuse it. In that sense, it works fantastic alongside Sea God's Revenge, Griptide, Sip of Hemlock, and even Lightning Strike. It works far less well with Voyage's End, Pharika's Cure, or Triton Tactics. Given the right situation, it does wonders with March of the Returned - but the fact that the March isn't a high-value pick shows just how important it is in this format to not "waste" a turn 4+ play on merely expanding your hand. In any slow format, March of the Returned would be great due to the fact that it's "draw 2 - and those two cards are creatures... maybe even your best creatures".

If you have a great instant or sorcery, Mnemonic Wall is a copy of that.

Unfortunately, it's a late pick right now because there's not a whole lot of great instants or sorceries that you can waste a turn setting up in Triple-Theros. That's the only reason this is a sad pick.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:32 pm 
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I liked Archeomancer with Opportunity... but even that was CMC 4 not 5, and was pretty underwheming for any other spell.

Interesting that I also underrated Pharika's mender, but that is pretty solid if you can have it sit around in your hand until something you want back dies.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 7:28 am 
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Archaeomancer with switcheroo was pretty good too.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:55 am 
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You took Mnemonic Wall

Usually I would post the rest, but this is actually going on with people, so I'll just post them painfully slowly, one by one...

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 12:57 am 
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Next pack folks
P12 P1
Anvilwrought Wraptor
Lost in a Labyrynth
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And a land, whatever.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:21 am 
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Raptor isn't the worst p12 pick i've ever seen...


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Agreed, the Raptor has flying and first strike, both of which are useful in this format.

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Raptor is a fine playable. Why are we picking through pick 12 though? Don't most forum drafts post the final 4 picks at the same time?

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Raptor. A colorless playable p12 is pretty awesome.

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@ rstnme, because my friends are slow.

Luckily, they've been fast enough to send me the rest of the packs (I was the slow one this time)

Also, you took Anvilwrought Wraptor

Also, update with stuff tomorrow, sorry I'm so bad at this.

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