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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 10:39 pm 
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So, clothing isn't as small as you think. It'll take about three or four yards of fabric to make your cloak / shirt and pants. Each yard is a three foot by three foot amount of fabric. That means while worn, you're looking at 27 to 36 square feet of fabric, which means a lot of casting. Now, if you want to strip down to use cubic feet, it'll end up taking about the same amount of time. Also, while you are a strong Mage, it does tax you to continually cast like that. It's not exactly 'free'. That's why I said it would take several minutes to complete.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:53 pm 
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Why would I have to go with square feets? You think that the character's "thicker" than a foot?
Or am I just not allowed to cast it with my person in the middle? (And if so, where is this stated?)

Also, if my prestidigitation tires me, does that mean the same cantrip-level spells for, say, Luka (like those Vicious Words she's been throwing out) tire her, too? Are cantrips, then, not unlimited as they're supposed to be? Or are you just making a special case for me because I'm not a caster class? If it's the latter, then I really think you should have given me a heads-up on the matter during character creation.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:42 am 
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Okay, a few things:

(1) I'm not telling you that you can't do what you want to do, all I said was it takes a few minutes. Arguing about something that ultimately doesn't help, hinder or really affect your character in any real way is kinda silly.

(2) I'm not singling you out for any reason, I've told the same thing to many groups, including another game run here on NGA. If you like, I'll go hunt down that post as well if you're insistent that I do so.

(3.a) Yes, using spells consistently do tire you because you still have to exert yourself a little per cast, doing so for a few minutes is akin to sprinting for that time. It's easy and anyone can do it, but it doesn't mean you're penalized.

(3.b) Yes, Luka has been using a small spell, but only for short times in combat. From my point of view, broken up between two fights, Luka would have cast significantly fewer times than what I'd envisioned you're doing, and had more time to do it in. If Luka had been casting it to mock people constantly, I'd end up warning that it could tire them as well.

(4) You're not being penalized, there are no minuses to anything for what you want to do aside for a few minutes of roleplay time. Please don't take what I've told you the wrong way, it's just how I see it playing out.

(5) I did not assume you'd cast Prestidigitation through yourself since the spell isn't listed as being able to target a creature. It affects objects and can create, but isn't meant to be cast on a creature. Maybe it's not explicitly in the rules, but that's just how I've always seen it played out.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:30 am 
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Meh. All you really need to tell me is "this is how I do it," but I do have to argue for a bit more power when I can. (I do think you're using a pretty unique interpretation of "unlimited cantrips" from what little I can see from searching, though) I AM taking this spell over spells that allow me to otherwise make a decent ranged attacks repeatedly, and unlike most casters, this is going to be my ONLY spell. Again, I wished you'd just let me have my flair; it's not like I'm going to somehow break your game by being able to clean larger patches of cloth quicker. It's just that taking minutes to clean clothes isn't nearly as cool as being able to do it in moments.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:23 am 
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October 5th at the latest.

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Yeah, I should be able to whip something up, you should bug me about it on Monday.

Gonna obnoxiously hope RPJesus is actually checking and repost this, since I'm gonna need it soon.

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I do say in my description in the Setup thread that she appears as a human male.
No one really said anything against it back when I made her, so I was under the impression you guys were all ok with it.

Actually I was wondering about that, is that part of some important plot point that's gonna come to light eventually like s/he's actually the runaway elf princess or was it just like "screw it, I wanna play an elf disguised as a human?"

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October 5th at the latest.

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Yeah, I should be able to whip something up, you should bug me about it on Monday.

Gonna obnoxiously hope RPJesus is actually checking and repost this, since I'm gonna need it soon.

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Indeededly, got a weekend of being introverted planned, gonna reread the thread and write up the best summary you've ever seen (within the past 24 hours :P).

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:07 pm 
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Not really. As I said, I only have a vague idea of a background for her.
She might end up revealing her identity later, but that's not really for me to decide.
She'll reveal if/when appropriate.

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RPJesus wrote:
Indeededly, got a weekend of being introverted planned, gonna reread the thread and write up the best summary you've ever seen (within the past 24 hours :P).

Awesome, thank you.

I'm actually finding it quite stressful being the Content Czar for two weekly articles... Having to try and get people who aren't necessarily writers to put together segments for me has been somewhat difficult to organize. I mean, I'm really enjoying the end pieces of it, but still. Huh, I spend a lot of time here. Two weekly articles, running one game, running a weekly contest, playing in one Resistance and another RPG.... and still trying to catch up on oh so many podcasts that are now very much in the past and I'm hearing of things so very late. So very late.... Well, in the end, I just hope to get a better system for getting the articles in and scheduled. Guess there isn't a real schedule right now. This has been a long ramble of useless thoughts...

I guess I'm just worried the RPGs don't move fast enough for each game to provide monthly content, it seems every two months is more appropriate. Which means I gotta figure out some fluff for in between the games.... Any thoughts on this? Maybe bugging the DM's for information on their settings, or.... I dunno, I just need more pieces to run. Man, I should not be thinking about this at 3:30 am. I should be sleeping. I think I still have a bunch of PMs to send out for another article idea.... Yeah, I should go do that.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:59 am 
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Also, Mown may be joining us soon!

hi, I'm going to play an edgelord.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:25 pm 
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Mown wrote:
hi, I'm going to play an edgelord.

And then Mown's character mysteriously died to a fedora related illness.

As soon as Mown gets their character ready and cleared by any one of you who knows what they're doing, I'll drop Mown's character into the cavern and we can proceed.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:13 pm 
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I know what I'm doing, I think.
Anyway, I heard rumors of a fancy trinket charity, but otherwise I'm done. (I can offer suggestions if you want. also I'm totally serious about wanting a cursed item you know)
Character sheet is here, still. I whined at Squinty to let me have Perception from my background, and I just decided to have a tarot deck as my trinket, but the rest should be normal I guess. I added some excess things in the p/i/b/f section because I could, and as far as I know, it doesn't have a gameplay impact, but it's easier for me that way.

edit: wow, my character name is unintentionally an anagram of Wrist Ordeal, I'm accidentally going all out.
edit2: actually, I'm dumb, it's Ordeel. Now I feel compelled to change it.

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Everything looks good to me. Also, love the concept of a Halfling monk, and the fact that you included damage for many different parts of the body.

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I'm totally assuming your character will function as an extra life for the rest of the party :P

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Oh man, I kinda hope you just show up in the party like "Yeah, I was here the whole time, I assumed you guys knew."

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Everything looks good to me.

Okay, I missed this. Mown, your special item will come later in game. Since it looks like everyone is ready to go, I'll get working on an IC update later this evening.

Sorry for the delay.

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RPJesus wrote:
Indeededly, got a weekend of being introverted planned, gonna reread the thread and write up the best summary you've ever seen (within the past 24 hours :P).

Think you'll be able to PM that summary to me in the next 24 hours so I can format, proofread / edit and get it set to publish before Wednesday morning?

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RPJesus wrote:
Indeededly, got a weekend of being introverted planned, gonna reread the thread and write up the best summary you've ever seen (within the past 24 hours :P).

Think you'll be able to PM that summary to me in the next 24 hours so I can format, proofread / edit and get it set to publish before Wednesday morning?

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Just sent it off recently. Also it was brought to my attention that some of us have a 1 in our proficiency bonus section, when it should be a 2, though after a quick double checking, it looks like all the attack/save bonuses and such were calculated correctly (and I apparently just left mine blank because I already know how proficiency works and prolly glossed over it), but just a heads up.

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